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Hater Depot
Joined: 29 Mar 2005
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Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2006 5:46 pm Post subject: Sports score grammar |
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I'm trying to think of a good way to explain this:
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"In the fourth quarter, Kia was leading Dongyang 82 to 80"
"The game was tied at 82 to 82."
The question is that the latter sentence has a preposition before the points but the former has no preposition before the points. |
What I'm thinking of saying is that in the second case, we say "at" because it's as if both teams are at the same location in a race, but in the first case they're not so it wouldn't make sense to say "at". But I don't know if this a) intelligible or b) correct. |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Location: Established in 1994
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Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2006 6:07 pm Post subject: |
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'at' is optional in the second example.
But that's all I know. |
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out of context
Joined: 08 Jan 2006 Location: Daejeon
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Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2006 6:44 pm Post subject: |
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To me, it seems more natural to say "The game was tied at 82", or "The game was tied, 82 to 82". I guess the reason is that because with each side having the same score, there is no imbalance, so it suggests a restful, static "at".
In the first example, I would "by" if I wanted to use a preposition, but it's much more natural to say "Kia was leading by 2 points", "Dongyang was trailing by 2 points" or "Kia was leading Dongyang, 82 to 80" than to say "Kia was leading by 82 to 80". I do think I've heard people say the last one, though. Since there's an imbalance in the score, the more dynamic "by" is used. Or something like that. |
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huffdaddy
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