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Demonicat

Joined: 18 Nov 2004 Location: Suwon
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Posted: Sun Apr 23, 2006 7:06 pm Post subject: |
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Ok, the right to bear arms.
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
Therefore, the constitution does NOT grant rights to private citizens to hacvve an armoury, but rather to join in a regular millitia with regular training. The purpose behind this amendment was so that the populace would have the ability to overthrow a tyrannical dictatorship should one arise... Of course, the US government and media has made an effort out of ridiculing and destroying many millitias and replacing the "Well Regulated Millitia", with the national guard, an extension of the military...which defies the point.
No law has ever been written specifically granting citizens the right to firearms, but in our recent past (as well as in some more rural parts today), owning a firearm was a nescesity of life. Hunting, wild animals, and predators attacking one's lifestock made gun ownership needed. The problem is, how do you get people to give up the guns they've had for decades. And how do you take them from yokels in the subburbs without taking them from ranchers who need them?
Meh, There it is. Oh, and on the Canada V US matter, may I say as a resident of Washington D.C. that I feel more intune with someone from Toronto than someone from, say Alberta. It all has to do with rural v urban and east v west. We share most of our history. Two hundred years is NOTHING culturally. |
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ajgeddes

Joined: 28 Apr 2004 Location: Yongsan
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Posted: Sun Apr 23, 2006 7:29 pm Post subject: |
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| Oh, and on the Canada V US matter, may I say as a resident of Washington D.C. that I feel more intune with someone from Toronto than someone from, say Alberta. It all has to do with rural v urban and east v west. |
I couldn't agree more. Being from Ontario, I feel like I have much more in common with people from Michigan, Ohio and New York, and all those other states in there, that I do with people from western Canada. This also works with vocabulary usage. |
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Thunndarr

Joined: 30 Sep 2003
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Location: Established in 1994
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Posted: Sun Apr 23, 2006 9:50 pm Post subject: |
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| If Koreans (or anyone) asks me where I'm from, should I say I'm from Canada? |
Not unless you know the secret handshake. Otherwise you'll be caught in a lie and the NotAmericans will be on here for weeks hoorawing about your attempt to pass. |
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Yu_Bum_suk

Joined: 25 Dec 2004
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Posted: Sun Apr 23, 2006 10:43 pm Post subject: |
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Canadians are to people of other English-speaking countries what Newfoundlanders are to the rest of Canada.
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which is what? |
As an American you have about 15 Southern states with which you could make a rather similar comparison.  |
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Newbie

Joined: 07 Feb 2003
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Posted: Sun Apr 23, 2006 11:03 pm Post subject: |
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| I leave for Seoul in early May. If Koreans (or anyone) asks me where I'm from, should I say I'm from Canada? I don't think people are going to kick my ass just because I'm American, but I don't really feel like talking politics all the time either. I don't like Bush. I campaigned against him, but sometimes I just want to drink a pint and have a good time. |
I would say about 2 or 3 out of every 10 Koreans mights hassle you for being American. Probably even less. So don't worry
In my experience, other teachers won't give a crap about where you're from. Being Canadian, I actually prefer Americans in Korea as most of our undesirables seem to head this way. |
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RACETRAITOR
Joined: 24 Oct 2005 Location: Seoul, South Korea
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Posted: Sun Apr 23, 2006 11:18 pm Post subject: |
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In my experience, other teachers won't give a crap about where you're from. Being Canadian, I actually prefer Americans in Korea as most of our undesirables seem to head this way. |
I have to second that. |
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Tiger Beer

Joined: 07 Feb 2003
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Posted: Mon Apr 24, 2006 1:17 am Post subject: |
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| Bronski wrote: |
| I leave for Seoul in early May. If Koreans (or anyone) asks me where I'm from, should I say I'm from Canada? I don't think people are going to kick my ass just because I'm American, but I don't really feel like talking politics all the time either. I don't like Bush. I campaigned against him, but sometimes I just want to drink a pint and have a good time. |
I would say about 2 or 3 out of every 10 Koreans mights hassle you for being American. Probably even less. So don't worry
In my experience, other teachers won't give a crap about where you're from. Being Canadian, I actually prefer Americans in Korea as most of our undesirables seem to head this way. |
Hmm.. probably better to have an American answer this one. I also wish Canadians would just practice telling Koreans that they are American.. so they will realize that NOTHING HAPPENS.
I've told everyone I'm American off and on for 10 years (whenever I lived on the ROK - slightly most of that time).. so probably told at least 1 million Koreans throughout my life in some form or another my nationality.. and they just ask me where in the US, studying opportunities, their relatives there, what my city is near, etc. Nothing negative ever. Usually they are more interested in how to improve their English or how I find living in Korea.. if I like kimchee.. can I use chopsticks.. how can they improve their English.. and thats about the extent of it. I never have problems being an American from Koreans.. nearly non-existant.
Honestly speaking, this 2 or 3 of every 10 Koreans you meet having a problem with Americans sounds like something only a recently-arrived Canadian might say about Americans who learned that somehow before leaving Canada. I've just personally never had any problems ever whatsover over my nationality, particularly from Koreans, and I tell them I'm American every single time.
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peppermint

Joined: 13 May 2003 Location: traversing the minefields of caddishness.
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Posted: Mon Apr 24, 2006 1:27 am Post subject: |
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| Who the hell thinks of themselves as"(insert nationality here) in Korea" after being here more than a few months anyway? |
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Satori

Joined: 09 Dec 2005 Location: Above it all
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Posted: Mon Apr 24, 2006 2:44 am Post subject: |
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I find it seriously kills my buzz to talk about nationality or politics on a night out. I can't think of anything less cool, or more rediculous, and it certainly ain't relaxing. I don't want to hear about Canada, and I don't want to tell you about New Zealand. I want your considered opinion about whether the two hot chicks in the corner are single, and do you think they would be amenable if we went over for a chat...
I also think the premise of the book is very weak. You want people's experience "as a canadian in Korea". Now granted, every canadian in Korea will have an "experience" of some kind. But the particulars of that experience will have very little to do with thier nationality, and a lot to do with thier personality. |
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Bladewarrior
Joined: 05 Dec 2004 Location: Currently back in Canada!
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Posted: Mon Apr 24, 2006 6:41 am Post subject: |
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| Well, first of all you are greatly mistaken as to the premise of the book, and secondly, the comments that I am getting from people will only be used in one of the smaller chapters of my book. As I stated from the beginning of this thread, the book is actually about my experiences here in Korea. What I purposely neglected to say, was that it's more specifically about being a Black Canadian in Korea, mainly because my experiences will differ greatly from that of a White Canadian, I know this to be true, as I have seen this first hand. However, the book neither puts Korea in a solely negative light, or a solely positive, it merely is meant to be an eye-opener, and hopefully a piece of information that not just Foreigners can use, but Koreans as well. |
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travel zen
Joined: 22 Feb 2005 Location: Good old Toronto, Canada
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Posted: Mon Apr 24, 2006 9:22 am Post subject: |
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I'm from Toronto, but my parnts are from the Caribbean.
I thought Korea was a cool place, didn't like the spitting and coldness from some people. That is clearly racism, but many people know that about Korea.
My girlfriend that I met in Canada, but toured with is Korean. She thinks koreans are macho-idiots for behaving the way they do.
Hmmm, If I would have landed in Korea first, instead of China, I probably would have disliked all the racism....but compared to China, Korea looks pretty damned accepting and accomodating. This must mean that China is about 300 years in the past with regards to socialization.
All in all, I met some really good Koreans, lots of foreigner-party-buddies, and had a reallllly good time in my two month stay. |
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Satori

Joined: 09 Dec 2005 Location: Above it all
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Posted: Mon Apr 24, 2006 9:37 am Post subject: |
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| Well, first of all you are greatly mistaken as to the premise of the book, and secondly, the comments that I am getting from people will only be used in one of the smaller chapters of my book. As I stated from the beginning of this thread, the book is actually about my experiences here in Korea. What I purposely neglected to say, was that it's more specifically about being a Black Canadian in Korea, mainly because my experiences will differ greatly from that of a White Canadian, I know this to be true, as I have seen this first hand. However, the book neither puts Korea in a solely negative light, or a solely positive, it merely is meant to be an eye-opener, and hopefully a piece of information that not just Foreigners can use, but Koreans as well. |
Well then I think the premise of the chapter is weak. |
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Bladewarrior
Joined: 05 Dec 2004 Location: Currently back in Canada!
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Posted: Mon Apr 24, 2006 3:37 pm Post subject: |
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| haha, All right Satori, I can work on that. |
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The Great Toad
Joined: 12 Jun 2004
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Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 8:05 pm Post subject: |
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| I do not like Canada they started the war in the gulf and before that attacked the World Trade Center Further they attacked South park Colorado. They are a neocommi welfare state. I think they have weak drug laws too so it all a bunch of hippies. Also, I went to the Rocky Mt Tavern and it was very loud and crowded I had to bump into a lot of them hockey players- to get to the bathroom- but they were nice and did not get mad. Still I think some of them need to stop green house growing all that pot and try to grow mushrooms or beats instead then at least they would not be dopes. |
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