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JacktheCat
Joined: 08 May 2004
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Nothing illegal about it.
As long as the lesson takes place in the school listed on your E-2, and admin has signed off on it, you are in the free and clear legal wise. |
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Yu_Bum_suk
Joined: 25 Dec 2004
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| Posted: Mon Apr 24, 2006 6:05 pm Post subject: |
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| JacktheCat wrote: |
Nothing illegal about it.
As long as the lesson takes place in the school listed on your E-2, and admin has signed off on it, you are in the free and clear legal wise. |
That's true - I hadn't thought of that (I assumed she meant at her house). I'm not sure what my students would think of me diverting my time to tutor little kids, though.
So here's one for you - I live on residence at my school in a house the school owns (the school owns a small row of houses on the edge of campus from property it's bought up to expand the campus). Does this mean that I can legally tutor anyone at my home? Can any teacher who lives in a teachers' residence that's on their campus do so? |
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Pyongshin Sangja
Joined: 20 Apr 2003
Location: I love baby!
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| Posted: Mon Apr 24, 2006 8:19 pm Post subject: |
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| Calm doooooown, eh. Just do it. Immigration? Who dey? |
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flint
Joined: 11 Apr 2004
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You turned down a private that was risk-free!  Why, don't you like money? 50 - 70 thou per hour...there aren't enough hours in the day...I wish we didn't have to sleep!  |
I always get a kick out of people who seem to freak because someone turned down a private. It is nice that you may do, or want to do them, but not everyone does. It may not be because they "don't like money". It could be because they don't like breaking the law, don't have the time, or as they don't like teaching kids. |
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some waygug-in
Joined: 25 Jan 2003
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Why do some of these parents feel they "need" a foreign teacher anyway?
I've met many a parent who is quite fluent in English, certainly fluent enough to tutor their own child, but refuses to do so. I think a lot of it has to do with prestige (oh I can afford a private tutor) or laziness (I can't be bothered to do it myself).
Not that there aren't legitimate reasons to want a private tutor, (with all the joy and wonder that hagwans inspire) but there seem to be some other factors at play. I've also had adult students admit that parents send their kids to hagwans to "keep them busy".
There is a common conception in Korea that kids shouldn't be allowed too much freedom......and then they cite the delenquency problems in Western countries as a justification. |
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Yu_Bum_suk
Joined: 25 Dec 2004
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| Posted: Mon Apr 24, 2006 8:48 pm Post subject: |
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| flint wrote: |
| spliff wrote: |
| You turned down a private that was risk-free! Why, don't you like money? 50 - 70 thou per hour...there aren't enough hours in the day...I wish we didn't have to sleep! |
I always get a kick out of people who seem to freak because someone turned down a private. It is nice that you may do, or want to do them, but not everyone does. It may not be because they "don't like money". It could be because they don't like breaking the law, don't have the time, or as they don't like teaching kids. |
It puzzles me a bit, too. As someone who (a) doesn't like breaking the law, (b) doesn't have the time, and (c) doesn't like little kids I don't see the travesty of not being able to make a bit of extra cash. I also find it a bit puzzling when people think that doing any unpaid extra work for a school that has treated me very well is crazy.
On the other hand, there really is a give-an-inch-take-a-mile mentality with some Koreans. The teacher from the other school who's friends with my head of English is a guy I've made a few audiotapes for, as they don't have a foreigner at his middle school. Perhaps he figured that I'm a limitless resource. |
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JacktheCat
Joined: 08 May 2004
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| Yu_Bum_suk wrote: |
| So here's one for you - I live on residence at my school in a house the school owns (the school owns a small row of houses on the edge of campus from property it's bought up to expand the campus). Does this mean that I can legally tutor anyone at my home? Can any teacher who lives in a teachers' residence that's on their campus do so? |
Interesting.
I'm far from a legal expert, but from my understanding, as long as the lesson/class takes place on property owned by the sponser of your E-2, and is sanctioned by them, it's kosher. |
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JacktheCat
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It never ceases to amaze me the number of public/private school teachers who don't take advantage of the extra-class clause in our contracts.
Easy enough to round up some students, teachers, or student/teacher's relatives for an after school class and some easy extra money. More so if your school is private and gets a cut of the action.
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Yu_Bum_suk
Joined: 25 Dec 2004
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| Posted: Mon Apr 24, 2006 8:54 pm Post subject: |
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| some waygug-in wrote: |
Why do some of these parents feel they "need" a foreign teacher anyway?
I've met many a parent who is quite fluent in English, certainly fluent enough to tutor their own child, but refuses to do so. I think a lot of it has to do with prestige (oh I can afford a private tutor) or laziness (I can't be bothered to do it myself).
Not that there aren't legitimate reasons to want a private tutor, (with all the joy and wonder that hagwans inspire) but there seem to be some other factors at play. I've also had adult students admit that parents send their kids to hagwans to "keep them busy".
There is a common conception in Korea that kids shouldn't be allowed too much freedom......and then they cite the delenquency problems in Western countries as a justification. |
It's strange, isn't it? The girl's mother and her can both speak a bit, so why don't they just practice together. I do know of a few Korean mothers who do this and upon meeting their children it's obvious.
The need to farm one's kids out is also a bit odd. In my thread 'How much mathematics do these poor kids need' I used an example of a student of mine who's getting 8 hours of math hogwan a week on top of high school. Now, I believe her father is an engineering professor, so why can't he just tutor her at home and spend more time with his daughter? Does he have to be able to tell his colleagues that his kid is going to a prestigeous and expensive hogwan in central Daegu? |
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some waygug-in
Joined: 25 Jan 2003
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Heaven forbid that little "Ji su" should be allowed to go to the park and.....................shriek!!!!!!!!! PLAY........OMG the horror, the horror!!  |
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antoniothegreat
Joined: 28 Aug 2005
Location: Yangpyeong
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| from my experience, a lot of koreans really dont like being parents. like they would rather just have their children disappear. maybe it is because they end up having kids before they want to due to pressures from in-laws, or the fact that many of them dont believe in birth control. but so many of them dont really look forward to seeing their kids, like they are a distraction, or an inconvenience. sad... |
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laogaiguk
Joined: 06 Dec 2005
Location: somewhere in Korea
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| Posted: Mon Apr 24, 2006 10:06 pm Post subject: |
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| antoniothegreat wrote: |
| from my experience, a lot of koreans really dont like being parents. like they would rather just have their children disappear. maybe it is because they end up having kids before they want to due to pressures from in-laws, or the fact that many of them dont believe in birth control. but so many of them dont really look forward to seeing their kids, like they are a distraction, or an inconvenience. sad... |
You are lucky you are "Antonio The Great", otherwise I would have had to call you on that moronic piece of crap opinion you just posted. Not only do they show indifference, but they tend to eat their children when they misbehave or food is scarce. This is why birth control is not really popular, they have to keep popping them out.  |
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