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Gopher
Joined: 04 Jun 2005
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 Posted: Tue Apr 25, 2006 6:57 am Post subject: |
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| bucheon bum wrote: |
| Gopher wrote: |
You are also not accounting for the fact that Guevara personally started the guerrilla war in Angola before dying in Bolivia in '68, attempting to start one up there as well.
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 Caught you in a mistake there. It was the Congo and not Angola.
Angola was a Porteguese colony up until 1975. |
I could be off on this, and I'll recheck.
I'm pretty sure I remember Guevara going into Angola and agitating, training guerrillas, just before embarking on the Bolivian campaign.
But there's no way I'm going to stake any capital on a debate treating Cuba's Angolan intervention, something I know very little about. |
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bucheon bum
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Tue Apr 25, 2006 8:27 am Post subject: |
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| Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee wrote: |
They US ought to break diplomatic relations with Venezuela , impose a trade embargo and not buy oil from that jerk.
Most of all the US ought to ignore him. |
I think your first proposals are over the top and unrealistic. The last one? Perfectly reasonable. |
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bucheon bum
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Tue Apr 25, 2006 8:30 am Post subject: |
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| Gopher wrote: |
I'm pretty sure I remember Guevara going into Angola and agitating, training guerrillas, just before embarking on the Bolivian campaign.
But there's no way I'm going to stake any capital on a debate treating Cuba's Angolan intervention, something I know very little about. |
Cuba didn't get involved in Angola until the Porteguese got booted out in 1975.
I'm 100% certain Guevara fought in the Congo. I thought you might have known about some other way he influenced Angola (such as propaganda, money, etc) while it was still a colony, but I know he didn't step foot in the country himself. |
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Gopher
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| Posted: Tue Apr 25, 2006 9:11 pm Post subject: |
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My compliments, BB.
It was the Congo/Zaire and not Anglola, although "the Cuban column" did indeed traverse Angolan territory as a base of operations (and apparently without permission).
Guevara went on a kind of goodwill tour of subSaharan Africa via Algiers in '64: he met potential allies in Mali, the Congo, Guinea, and Ghana.
Actual Cuban intervention in Anglolan affairs did not occur until the Portuguese empire, or its remnants, collapsed in the mid-1970s. (Apparently there was a coup in Portugal around '73 that precipitated this in some way; I know next to nothing about it, though.) |
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