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Canada pulling out of Kyoto

 
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mindmetoo



Joined: 02 Feb 2004

PostPosted: Fri Apr 28, 2006 5:59 am    Post subject: Canada pulling out of Kyoto Reply with quote

You know Canadians like to make a lot of hay about what great environmental white knights they are... I mean we're in Kyoto and everything. NOT LIKE THOSE DIRTY AMERICANS. Of course recently Harper has pulled out of Kyoto and is joining America's ol' "there ain't no global warming and anyone that says there isin', like NASA scientists, is nuthin' but a low down dirty envirofacist but on the odd ifin' chance they're right we'll have this little side agreement with Australia and Korea to cut something or another" protocol.

And I thought "gosh, Canadians must be really upset."

But then there's this article that despite global warming and high gas prices, Canadians (unlike Americans) are buying more SUVs than ever. So, it would seem Canadians like being in Kyoto for the right to smell their own farts with a free conscience but when it actually comes to doing their part, well, forget it.

http://www.cbc.ca/story/canada/national/2006/04/13/energy-060413.html
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Tiger Beer



Joined: 07 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Fri Apr 28, 2006 6:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kyoto.

Hmm.. the only country in the world that ratifies treaties into legal law is the U.S. No other countries have that written into their governmental laws. So whenver these 'global treaties' come down the line.. nearly everyone in the world just signs them and smiles, and nothing changes from it legally whatsoever (except in the U.S., the only country in the world where it must legally enforce any and all treaties of any nature).

Canada or anyone else who did sign it.. it was solely a symbolic feature.. and I don't know ANY that honored that treaty actually implementing laws into their government - even when they signed it, they didn't honor, and often said why should we if the US didn't even sign it. But in reality, no other country in the world has any feature in its legal system to actually honor those - or with a few that do - they have so many legal loopholes to get out of it without having to actually change anything.

For Canada to be withdrawing from something that wasn't even honored or implemented in the first place.. strange.
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On the other hand



Joined: 19 Apr 2003
Location: I walk along the avenue

PostPosted: Fri Apr 28, 2006 9:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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You know Canadians like to make a lot of hay about what great environmental white knights they are... I mean we're in Kyoto and everything. NOT LIKE THOSE DIRTY AMERICANS.


I think the Harper years are gonna be a real godsend for anyone who's sick to death of self-righteous Canadians going around telling the world how enlightened their homeland is.
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bucheon bum



Joined: 16 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Fri Apr 28, 2006 9:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have to say I find this quite amusing.

You silly canadians Smile. A shame harper has now deprived you of one way to bash us Americans.
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On the other hand



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 28, 2006 9:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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A shame harper has now deprived you of one way to bash us Americans.


Yeah, and ya know how you're always hearing that Canada is on the verge of becoming a pot smoker's utopia?

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VANCOUVER -- The familiar odour on Granville Street in downtown Vancouver and the furtive $20 transactions are unlikely to be affected by a Conservative election victory, but on a broader scale, a reduction in marijuana possession penalties now appears extremely unlikely.

If elected Jan. 23, the Conservatives will not decriminalize marijuana, a party spokesman confirmed, and they will not reintroduce a Liberal bill that would fine people caught possessing less than 15 grams of cannabis, instead of imposing criminal sentences.

The Conservatives are also promising to impose mandatory minimum sentences for people convicted in marijuana grow operations.

Anyone caught with more than three kilograms of marijuana (which has a street value of about $20,000, based on a price of $6,600 a kilogram, according to the testimony of police in B.C. courts), would receive a sentence of at least two years in prison.


In fairness to the Conservatives, I doubt the decriminalization bill would've passed even if the Liberals had remained in power.

http://www.hightimes.com/ht/news/content.php?bid=1229&aid=10
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mindmetoo



Joined: 02 Feb 2004

PostPosted: Fri Apr 28, 2006 4:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

On the other hand wrote:
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A shame harper has now deprived you of one way to bash us Americans.


Yeah, and ya know how you're always hearing that Canada is on the verge of becoming a pot smoker's utopia?


Wow the Mexicans have just nth upped Canada:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060428/ts_nm/mexico_drugs_dc_3
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TheUrbanMyth



Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired

PostPosted: Sat Apr 29, 2006 2:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

On the other hand wrote:
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You know Canadians like to make a lot of hay about what great environmental white knights they are... I mean we're in Kyoto and everything. NOT LIKE THOSE DIRTY AMERICANS.


I think the Harper years are gonna be a real godsend for anyone who's sick to death of self-righteous Canadians going around telling the world how enlightened their homeland is.



I think the Harper years are gonna be a real godsend period. Hopefully it will wake a lot of Canadians up long enough to notice that no, he really doesn't have hoofs or horns, or a tail.
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khyber



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 29, 2006 3:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

sigh...
As soon as he was elected i thought, "oh well....a change may be nice....I can't imagine he's gonna swing too far to the socially conservative side".
Looks like I was an idiot. After one or two decisions of his I agreed with, he's really been lettings bomb fly as far as i'm concerned.

damn me and my foolish imaginings!
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Hollywoodaction



Joined: 02 Jul 2004

PostPosted: Sat Apr 29, 2006 5:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

On the other hand wrote:
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You know Canadians like to make a lot of hay about what great environmental white knights they are... I mean we're in Kyoto and everything. NOT LIKE THOSE DIRTY AMERICANS.


I think the Harper years are gonna be a real godsend for anyone who's sick to death of self-righteous Canadians going around telling the world how enlightened their homeland is.


LOL.

Canada was deemed by the UN as the best country in the world to live in for a few years in late 90's, to which people old enough to have jobs and pay taxes replied, "Damn, the rest of the world must be in serious trouble if that's true."

Older generations of Canadians, say over 30 years old, are probably not overly nationalistic, or at least have the good taste to keep it to themselves. However, the younger generations have been brainwashed by the government with nationalistic nonsense in order to recreate our national identity. One thing they were trying to change was the fact that besides hockey and snow, what all Canadians had in common was their cynicism about the Canadian government. If you've been following Canadian politics, you'd understand why this was a priority to them.
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