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whitebeagle
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 Posted: Sun Apr 30, 2006 7:54 am Post subject: Rooney on World Cup casualty list |
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http://observer.guardian.co.uk/sport/story/0,,1764568,00.html
This does not look good! I know some teams can become galvanized and able to raise their game and thrive when a star is absent (Ireland in WC 2002, Teenwolf movie basketball team at the end of the movie). But unfortunately I think we really need Roo to have any kind of stab at winning the thing  |
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capebretoncanadian
Joined: 20 Feb 2005
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| Posted: Sun Apr 30, 2006 8:33 am Post subject: |
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oooooooooo talismanic.................that's a shiny word aint it. I bet the author was beaming when he fired that one on the story.  |
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hermes.trismegistus
Joined: 08 Sep 2005
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| Posted: Sun Apr 30, 2006 7:31 pm Post subject: Re: Rooney on World Cup casualty list |
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| whitebeagle wrote: |
| But unfortunately I think we really need Roo to have any kind of stab at winning the thing |
"Winning the thing"?
Do you smoke crack?
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If you think the UK can take Brazil, all I have to say is 
Namaste. |
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itaewonguy
Joined: 25 Mar 2003
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| Posted: Sun Apr 30, 2006 8:04 pm Post subject: |
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Roo is not needed for England to advance to the finals!
but yeah winning? come on.. lets get real.. |
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trigger123
Joined: 08 Sep 2004
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| Posted: Mon May 01, 2006 2:48 am Post subject: Re: Rooney on World Cup casualty list |
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| hermes.trismegistus wrote: |
| whitebeagle wrote: |
| But unfortunately I think we really need Roo to have any kind of stab at winning the thing |
"Winning the thing"?
Do you smoke crack?
If you think the UK can take Brazil, all I have to say is
Namaste. |
do you? |
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hermes.trismegistus
Joined: 08 Sep 2005
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| Posted: Mon May 01, 2006 3:00 am Post subject: Re: Rooney on World Cup casualty list |
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Double-post deleted.
Last edited by hermes.trismegistus on Mon May 01, 2006 3:07 am; edited 1 time in total |
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hermes.trismegistus
Joined: 08 Sep 2005
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| Posted: Mon May 01, 2006 3:06 am Post subject: Re: Rooney on World Cup casualty list |
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I'm in Korea. It may be a good thing they don't have crack. Living in such an oppressive environment would surely result in massive addiction, if it were.
However, if you suggest that the UK can not only beat Brazil (never mind the other strong contenders), but also win the Cup itself, I suppose in just a few short weeks we'll see.
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Top Goal Scorer of The World Cup Germany 2006 Odds
Winner is on the player who scores more goals during the whole tournament. Penalty shoot-outs do not count.
Ronaldo Nazario (BRA) 8/1
Adriano (BRA) 9/1
Ronaldinho Gaucho (BRA) 9/1
Michael Owen (ENG) 14/1
Frank Lampard (ENG) 39/1
Robinho (BRA) 42/1
Kaka (BRA) 46/1
Steven Gerrard (ENG) 75/1
David Beckham (ENG) 100/1
Joe Cole (ENG) 145/1
Odds to Win Outright The Soccer World Cup Germany 2006
Brazil 5/2
Argentina 7/1
Germany 7/1
England 6/1 |
The sweet myopia of nationalistic sports fanaticism never ceases to amaze me.
Namaste. |
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Charlieb
Joined: 12 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Mon May 01, 2006 4:00 am Post subject: |
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Since when is England called the UK anyway? Anyone heard of Scotland, N Ireland and Wales? Is the question of whether some combined nationality football team could beat Brazil?or are you talking about England?
Sorry but cant help but be pedantic , Rooney's injury has soured my mood! In answer to the question, of course we (England) could beat Brazil, remember what happened to 2002's favourites France? Like any football tournament, theres a great deal of luck involved, if there was an international league then Brazil would win but hey, Chelsea didnt win the FA cup in the past two seasons did they? |
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hermes.trismegistus
Joined: 08 Sep 2005
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| Posted: Mon May 01, 2006 4:15 am Post subject: |
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| Charlieb wrote: |
| Since when is England called the UK anyway? |
Sorry for the misnomer.
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| In answer to the question, of course we (England) could beat Brazil, remember what happened to 2002's favourites France? Like any football tournament, theres a great deal of luck involved, if there was an international league then Brazil would win but hey, Chelsea didnt win the FA cup in the past two seasons did they? |
Anything could happen. The negative probability of England beating Brazil - barring cataclysmic losses to their line-up - seems significantly stronger than the positive probability. It seems about as likely as thinking that Barca won't win their league.
In 2002 Brazil seemed the obvious choice. And they were.
Brazil outclasses England at pretty much every position, but, of course, the miraculous could always happen. Upsets make games interesting.
However, fanatical following of any sport seems counter-productive. A sport can serve as entertainment, but I could never justify thinking of it in such a way as to actually get depressed over anything that could happen in any game.
I've never liked Chelsea, so I probably wouldn't be the best person to ask as to why they didn't win.
Namaste. |
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whitebeagle
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This is the problem I have with discussing football (NOT soccer) with North Americans. They simply dont know enough to comment.
England (NOT the United Kingdom ) are second most fancied to win the World Cup.
http://www.oddschecker.com/betting/mode/o/card/worldcup-worldcup/odds/10218x/sid/10062
Therefore suggesting that they might win it is not ridiculous at all. Upsets can and do happen. Defending champions France didnt even get out of the groups last time. Greece won Euro 2004. |
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hermes.trismegistus
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| Posted: Mon May 01, 2006 5:04 am Post subject: |
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Who said I was North American? 
I'd still have to pick Argentina over England... and probably a few others.
As I said, we'll see in a few short weeks!
In the least there should be some interesting matches.
Namaste. |
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ticktock
Joined: 14 Apr 2005
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| Posted: Mon May 01, 2006 8:03 am Post subject: |
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Rooney's injury's doing all you brit guys a favour...he's far too minging..not a the best representative for England...
*ducks quickly in case of flame* |
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ticktock
Joined: 14 Apr 2005
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| Posted: Mon May 01, 2006 8:08 am Post subject: Re: Rooney on World Cup casualty list |
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| trigger123 wrote: |
| hermes.trismegistus wrote: |
| whitebeagle wrote: |
| But unfortunately I think we really need Roo to have any kind of stab at winning the thing |
"Winning the thing"?
Do you smoke crack?
If you think the UK can take Brazil, all I have to say is
Namaste. |
do you? |
Trigger123, the dude's only telling it like it is, no need to get touchy about it....sure you're English, patriotic and proud, we get that but sometimes it's ok to acknowledge that there are better teams out there..... |
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whitebeagle
Joined: 09 Feb 2003
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| Posted: Mon May 01, 2006 8:23 am Post subject: |
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Ticktock, when did anyone say that Brazil werent any good? All that was said was that England are the second most fancied team in the World Cup and they have a chance of winning it (albeit hampered by Roo's injury).
'The dude' you refer to is trying to get a rise out of English posters by putting down England (or 'the UK' as our well-informed friend states). Simple.
Anyhow, the topic of the post was specifically Roo's injury. Feel free to comment on that to your heart's content... |
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ticktock
Joined: 14 Apr 2005
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| Posted: Mon May 01, 2006 8:25 am Post subject: |
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| whitebeagle wrote: |
Ticktock, when did anyone say that Brazil werent any good? All that was said was that England are the second most fancied team in the World Cup and they have a chance of winning it (albeit hampered by Roo's injury).
'The dude' you refer to is trying to get a rise out of English posters by putting down England (or 'the UK' as our well-informed friend states). Simple.
Anyhow, the topic of the post was specifically Roo's injury. Feel free to comment on that to your heart's content... |
Sure thing! Roo's face initself is an injury!!! |
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