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josesiem



Joined: 28 Jan 2006
Location: Bundang, Korea

PostPosted: Mon May 01, 2006 9:31 am    Post subject: Fair Contract? Reply with quote

Hey guys, wanted to get your opinions. About to sign a contract with a school. Everything seems pretty good except for the following things are really annoying me. They're willing to change some of them, but the overall contract is really slanted to their side.

-- No medical for first 60 days
-- No pay for orientation, training which last up to 5 days
-- originally contract read, teacher must pay all airfare, recruiter fees, and visa fees if teacher cannot complete contract for ANY reason. I got them to change this one!
-- 2 unpaid sick days, which I got them to change.

Rest of the contract is standard. Split shifts suck, but thats the way it goes with teaching adults I hear.

Anyways, the whole thing is annoying me. Other contracts I've read are much more fair. So, I am deciding on whether or not to sign it.

I've already emailed them twice about contract issues, so I feel like if I keep pestering them, it could start a long and rocky relationship.
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ontheway



Joined: 24 Aug 2005
Location: Somewhere under the rainbow...

PostPosted: Mon May 01, 2006 9:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You should get your medical coverage right after you get your Alien Registration Card (ARC). The health insurance will be back dated to the beginning of your contract as listed on the ARC. You should pay half and the school should pay half. All the paperwork takes time, but 60 days seems too long. From arrival, to the ARC if you go to immigration right away, to insurance coverage, even if the actual insurance card hasn't arrived yet - about 30 days should do it.

You should get full pay for training and orientation.

As for sick days, the general Korean sick day policy is: "Don't get sick." If you're just a little sick, you're expected to work. If you're really sick, then you can't, and a decent employer will deal with it.

What is the pay for this job? Pay levels are up.
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Grotto



Joined: 21 Mar 2004

PostPosted: Mon May 01, 2006 9:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No pay for oreintation Razz

And you get splits Rolling Eyes

You should have 3 days paid sick days in your contract Exclamation

After 6 months you shouldnt have to pay back you incoming airfare if you leave. Under no circumstances should you have to pay back a recruiters fee or visa costs!
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josesiem



Joined: 28 Jan 2006
Location: Bundang, Korea

PostPosted: Mon May 01, 2006 10:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the tips.

I like it cuz I'm teaching 6-8 adults per class. This sounds way better than 12 screaming hagwon kids. I guess I should just be upfront, tell them what I want, and leave it at that.

Pay is 20,000 hour, which is not the best, but the apt is sweet, location, etc.
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alabamaman



Joined: 25 Apr 2006

PostPosted: Mon May 01, 2006 11:06 am    Post subject: Re: Fair Contract? Reply with quote

josesiem wrote:
Hey guys, wanted to get your opinions. About to sign a contract with a school. Everything seems pretty good except for the following things are really annoying me. They're willing to change some of them, but the overall contract is really slanted to their side.

-- No medical for first 60 days
-- No pay for orientation, training which last up to 5 days
-- originally contract read, teacher must pay all airfare, recruiter fees, and visa fees if teacher cannot complete contract for ANY reason. I got them to change this one!
-- 2 unpaid sick days, which I got them to change.

Rest of the contract is standard. Split shifts suck, but thats the way it goes with teaching adults I hear.



Anyways, the whole thing is annoying me. Other contracts I've read are much more fair. So, I am deciding on whether or not to sign it.

I've already emailed them twice about contract issues, so I feel like if I keep pestering them, it could start a long and rocky relationship.


*3-5 sick days is the norm for contracts
*the no medical for the first 60 days is a load of crap!
*As Grotto said, fix the no pay for orientation clause. You can only get paid until you have an E2 Visa though.



Term of Contract

The worker will work after the issuance of an E2 visa from Korean Immigration. After the worker has obtained an E2 Visa from Korean Immigration, he/she will work for the employer for a period not exceeding one year The period of employment will begin on mm/dd/yyyy and end on mm/dd/yyyy.

The above clause may not be a bad idea to throw in. It's basically saying in your contract that you cannot work until you have an E2 Visa. Employers love to omit these for some strange reason. Twisted Evil
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