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TheUrbanMyth
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| My supervisor told me lately that they wanted to start an English village at my school, which I thought sounded pretty cool...until I heard that the model they're basing it on is the one in Jeonju and he said that none of the Korean teachers (I'm not sure about native speakers) signed on for another year there because they didn't even get weekends off. They asked my supervisor to do it but he refused because of the lack of time off. So instead of giving people time off they are giving willing teachers more "promotion points" for those who want to fast track their teaching career in order to lure teachers to the village. I think the idea is good but the implementation (at least of those I know of) is still distinctly Korean. |
What exactly are "promotion points"? |
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Demophobe
Joined: 17 May 2004
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| Posted: Tue May 02, 2006 3:09 am Post subject: |
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| Unreal wrote: |
| My supervisor told me lately that they wanted to start an English village at my school, which I thought sounded pretty cool...until I heard that the model they're basing it on is the one in Jeonju and he said that none of the Korean teachers (I'm not sure about native speakers) signed on for another year there because they didn't even get weekends off. They asked my supervisor to do it but he refused because of the lack of time off. So instead of giving people time off they are giving willing teachers more "promotion points" for those who want to fast track their teaching career in order to lure teachers to the village. I think the idea is good but the implementation (at least of those I know of) is still distinctly Korean. |
A couple of tents on the roof, slow-speaking foreigners cooking hamburgers on a hibachi wearing oversize clothes with tilty caps...
Sorry....a school starting an English villiage just brings to mind a budgeted picture... |
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46long
Joined: 23 Aug 2005
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| Posted: Tue May 02, 2006 10:31 pm Post subject: |
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| Unreal wrote: |
| My supervisor told me lately that they wanted to start an English village at my school, which I thought sounded pretty cool...until I heard that the model they're basing it on is the one in Jeonju and he said that none of the Korean teachers (I'm not sure about native speakers) signed on for another year there because they didn't even get weekends off. They asked my supervisor to do it but he refused because of the lack of time off. So instead of giving people time off they are giving willing teachers more "promotion points" for those who want to fast track their teaching career in order to lure teachers to the village. I think the idea is good but the implementation (at least of those I know of) is still distinctly Korean. |
That is, indeed , true. None of the Korean teachers re-signed. However, this was not as a result of the program itself. It was a result of the interpersonal relationships between the Korean staff. One bad apple ruins the bunch, as they say.
46 in Jeonju |
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steroidmaximus
Joined: 27 Jan 2003
Location: GangWon-Do
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| Posted: Tue May 02, 2006 11:16 pm Post subject: |
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| considering the amount of hours you're expected to work, the type of teaching you're expected to do, the length of vacation you're given, and the pay you're expected to swallow, I'd recommend not doing it. |
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Unreal
Joined: 01 Jul 2004
Location: Jeollabuk-do
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| Posted: Wed May 03, 2006 12:14 am Post subject: |
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| TheUrbanMyth wrote: |
| What exactly are "promotion points"? |
Teachers get credits or points towards promotion if they fulfill certain duties such as creating documents as designated by the provincial office, holding prestigious positions in the school(ie. lots of extracurricular work), hosting a student teacher, working in small towns, etc.
I'm not exactly sure how it works but my wife was a student teacher and the teacher who was her sponsor knew all the ins and outs. By having my wife as a student teacher and by working in a small town, he was scoring points towards promotion. He is a lousy teacher who let my wife teach while he hunted for real estate...but he should get promoted soon for his fine work.
It seems the acquisition of these promotion points is mostly based upon doing things that nobody would normally want to do or most serious teachers would (and many do) consider bull$hit. |
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TheUrbanMyth
Joined: 28 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Wed May 03, 2006 3:14 am Post subject: |
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| Aha. I was wondering if foreigners can get these, but even if they can, it doesn't sound all that worthwhile. Thanks for your time. |
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Unreal
Joined: 01 Jul 2004
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| Posted: Wed May 03, 2006 3:56 pm Post subject: |
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| I asked my wife about the promotion points last night and she said that a person who works for 25 years usually has about 120 points, which is the amount needed to apply for a vice principal position. My wife said that her host teacher got 0.1 points for each student teacher and 0.1 points for teaching in an undesirable place. I was wrong about the documents though...they're just regular work that is required and don't count towards promotion. |
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EasternEvasion
Joined: 11 Sep 2005
Location: Ansan
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| Posted: Fri Jul 14, 2006 2:24 am Post subject: |
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Yeah, I don't know how they can sustain enough staff. For anyone who's done just one summer camp, it's hard to imagine having to repeat it every month thereafter...
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They've had no problem retaining educators at Paju, though speculations assumed otherwise.
Also, it's not just a summer camp. The Gyeonggi English Village (includes Ansan and Paju Camps) has a few programs including a family weekend program, the one week program for 8th graders, a month long summer/winter camp, a 24 hour program for 4th graders, a program to train EFL teachers in Korea, cyber EV, and free classes for the military. These programs attract a diverse group of educators, not to mention the hiring process is more competitive than private academies (hagwons) and some public schools.
The kids walk away with an understanding of how to deal with certain situations, and families seem appreciative that they are being prepared to travel abroad. The military program is fantastic, allowing soldiers who otherwise have little opportunity to further their English skills and keep their minds off of the shitty lifestyle.
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| I think the concept of English 'villages' is a very interesting one. In theory it sounds like an ideal program for both parents and kids alike. However, it's hard to see how they can attract the best quality instructors to such programs. With a few years behind me now, I really don't think I could muster the va va voom of an entertainer-*beep*-'teacher' (although all teaching jobs in Korea seem to require that ghastly edutainment factor.) It has all the makings of a holiday camp, with a very claustrophobic feel for the mature teacher. I wouldn't do it whatever the pay. |
Keep in mind that each English Village is different, and not every teacher is an entertainer. At any rate, at Gyeonggi EV (the most well-known), there are different positions and obviously different styles of teaching, some more active than others. I didn't realize that being mature and outgoing couldn't go together. |
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