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flotsam
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Yeah, it was amazing. Better than when Stewart took down those Crossfire chumps.
The thing is I'm sure Bush didn't know Colbert was being satirical. |
At this point though, the Bush administration is so farcical, it's impossible to be purely satirical about it.
When I was watching the speech, I was laughing, but the when it was over, rather than it feeling cathartic, I felt like I had an anvil in my gut.
It's all fucking true.
Ha-ha-ha-ha...eh...oh...shit. |
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Rteacher
Joined: 23 May 2005
Location: Western MA, USA
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| Posted: Wed May 03, 2006 7:09 pm Post subject: |
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When I happened to call my 80 year old aunt last Sunday she told me she was watching C -Span and the Bush press event thing. I think I replied "it must be awful boring" but she said "no, it's really good..." I had no idea until I saw it via Mr. "Peabody's" links. (Actually, my aunt watches the Daily Show every night and even liked the South Park episode that featured swearing all the way through it...)
By the end, Bush definitely looked like he'd absorbed a lot of punches to the head (reminisicent of the time Emile Griffith cornered Benny Paret and landed in rapid succession over thirty unnanswered shots to the head till Paret collapsed in a heap - and died shortly thereafter...) |
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identity
Joined: 22 Apr 2006
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| Posted: Wed May 03, 2006 8:42 pm Post subject: |
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| you know what, i have never really found colbert to be that funny. i think he's great to watch, and a brilliant guy, but he never kills me. it's always the same bit with different jokes. even when the jokes are great, he's not as funny delivering them as john stewart or many other guys would be. i think his stuff is just funnier on paper. |
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mindmetoo
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| Posted: Wed May 03, 2006 9:42 pm Post subject: |
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| Nice. Finally someone talks about the elephant in the room when GW has to sit and take it. I wish US had a President question time similar to the UK's Prime Minister question time. Bush's quick wit would really shine then. |
Yeah I've been saying that for a long time. Bush would fold like a house of cards (wasn't that a good BBC mini series?). I mean when a 20 year old girl can trip him up...
The great thing about question period is it allows the opposition to ask very tough questions and the media can dutifully report it. The American system requires the media to ask the president the tough questions and, well, we've seen how well that worked when the media was keen not to be shut out of the latest Desert Nintendo Storm gun cam footage... However if the media can take the ostensible role of the neutral scribe, all the better. |
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mindmetoo
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| Posted: Wed May 03, 2006 9:45 pm Post subject: |
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| identity wrote: |
| you know what, i have never really found colbert to be that funny. i think he's great to watch, and a brilliant guy, but he never kills me. it's always the same bit with different jokes. even when the jokes are great, he's not as funny delivering them as john stewart or many other guys would be. i think his stuff is just funnier on paper. |
I read his "decider" thing online and didn't actually find it all that funny. |
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canuckistan
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poker player
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Wrench
Joined: 07 Apr 2005
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| Posted: Wed May 03, 2006 11:55 pm Post subject: |
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Colbert is a bleedheart liberal. Yes I agree with some things he said but he also is a moron that stepped to far.
I support Bush and I'm not even an American. |
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desultude
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
Location: Dangling my toes in the Persian Gulf
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| Posted: Wed May 03, 2006 11:58 pm Post subject: |
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The expression is "bleeding-heart" liberal- as in my heart is bleeding for you.  Sort of the anti-thesis of the hard-hearted conservative.  |
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Qinella
Joined: 25 Feb 2005
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| Posted: Thu May 04, 2006 12:24 am Post subject: |
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| mindmetoo wrote: |
| identity wrote: |
| you know what, i have never really found colbert to be that funny. i think he's great to watch, and a brilliant guy, but he never kills me. it's always the same bit with different jokes. even when the jokes are great, he's not as funny delivering them as john stewart or many other guys would be. i think his stuff is just funnier on paper. |
I read his "decider" thing online and didn't actually find it all that funny. |
Do you mean a portion from the speech where he talked about deciding?
That's a reference to Bush referring to himself as "the decider" a few weeks back. That utterance was latched onto and mocked widely in the media. If you didn't know about it, the Colbert bit wouldn't really make much sense. Maybe you did know about it, but if not, well, there it is, squire. |
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Bulsajo
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Thu May 04, 2006 7:06 pm Post subject: |
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| Wrench wrote: |
| Colbert is a bleedheart liberal. Yes I agree with some things he said but he also is a moron that stepped to far. |
| desultude wrote: |
| The expression is "bleeding-heart" liberal- as in my heart is bleeding for you. Sort of the anti-thesis of the hard-hearted conservative. |
Don't waste your time- Wrench will just tell about how great Canada's 'frigits' are...
Good frigits are full of truthiness, that's for sure.
I'd sure like to hear Wrench explain how he reached the conclusion that "Colbert is a moron".
I mean "I am distressed that Colbert would mock the President to his face" well, okay, maybe that is [possibly, if we're feeling generous] an argument that could be made without engendering too many hoots and catcalls, but "Colbert is a bleed-heart moron that stepped to far"?!?
In a thread like this, that is- literally- like covering yourself in BBQ Sauce and walking into a hungry lion's den [figuratively speaking]. |
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canuckistan
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I've been reading about the mainstream media silence over Colbert's speech in the days following the dinner, while the blogosphere and internet in the mean time were abuzz about it--no kidding! How could anyone who's even remotely awake and alive in this world ignore THAT elephant in the room?
Many lame, butt-covering reasons given for the general media silence afterwards (when they couldn't ignore the buzz any longer) were that Colbert's speech was just not funny, but I'm more inclined to believe this explanation:
http://www.wsws.org/articles/2006/may2006/colb-m05.shtml
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At a large public gathering, attended by the president, top officials and �celebrities� from various fields, a well-known comic personality lights into the administration and the media, accusing the one of malfeasance and the other of toadyism, and this, according to Steinberg and the Times, is not newsworthy. Is anyone expected to believe this?
The media buried Colbert�s routine because his comments, rather courageous considering the circumstances, spoke directly to their own role as accomplices of the administration. These are things that simply cannot be said in America.
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Well he said them alright! And I don't think his sole intention was to "be funny." It was such a ballsy and astute condemnation of his targets, they figured it was better to ignore it rather than acknowledge they'd just been called out onto the carpet for being gutless accomplices....and then they were gutless AGAIN!!!
It just doesn't get any better than this  |
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mindmetoo
Joined: 02 Feb 2004
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| Posted: Fri May 05, 2006 5:23 pm Post subject: |
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| I dunno. I just didn't find his words all that funny. |
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Bulsajo
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Fri May 05, 2006 5:42 pm Post subject: |
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| mindmetoo wrote: |
| I dunno. I just didn't find his words all that funny. |
I found it more 'outrageous' and 'ballsy' than outright 'funny' but regardless, that dinner and the things that were said in the presence of the President were certainly 'newsworthy'.
'Embarrassed silence' is an apt description of the aftermath. |
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indytrucks
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| Posted: Fri May 05, 2006 6:38 pm Post subject: |
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I saw a discussion of what happened this morning on CNN's International Correspondents where whats-he-called from the New York Times basically towed the mainstream media's party line that he simply "wasn't as funny as he usually is" in order to deflect attention from what canukistan posted about earlier in the thread:
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| The media buried Colbert�s routine because his comments, rather courageous considering the circumstances, spoke directly to their own role as accomplices of the administration. These are things that simply cannot be said in America. |
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