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Independent Contractor = Screwed at Tax Time?

 
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Voyeur



Joined: 19 Jun 2003

PostPosted: Mon May 08, 2006 8:02 am    Post subject: Independent Contractor = Screwed at Tax Time? Reply with quote

I work for an academy that has all its teachers set up as independent contractors. They advertise explicitly that this allows for a minimum tax rate of 3.3% withheld and say that you pay less taxes than other teachers because you also get less: no NHIC, no Pension contributions - nada.

No problem. Seems Fair.

But One year into things, it is tax time. It turns out, that this means ALL my income is UNSALARIED and BUSINESS income. This seems to mean that:

a) I cannot get the 30% foreign SALRIED worker deduction
b) I cannot get almost any of the standard SALARY and WAGER earner deduction
c) The kinds of busniess deductions I could get are either not applicable to a teacher operating as an independent contractor or they require massive amounts of documentation that I have not kept

The business tax rate is 8% on the first 10 million won and 17% for everything else under 40 million. I made 3.5 million won a month for 12 months (had to pay own rent, key money, no severance, and no 4.5% pension net kickback that others get - so not so amazing).

But now, my average tax rate appears to be somewhwre in the neighbourhood of 15% and only 3.3% was withheld! I owe like 4-5 million won suddenly?

Can this be right? I have been paying off loans. I don't even have 1 million in the bankl and now I owe 5 million by the end of the month to the Korean government????
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Dan The Chainsawman



Joined: 05 May 2005

PostPosted: Mon May 08, 2006 8:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The words, "Run forrest run" come to mind.
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Voyeur



Joined: 19 Jun 2003

PostPosted: Mon May 08, 2006 8:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Unfortunately I have about 5 million in pension due me when I finally leave Korea - I imagine getting that might be hard while being behind in my taxes Sad

Never know though lol
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uber1024



Joined: 28 Jul 2003
Location: New York City

PostPosted: Mon May 08, 2006 9:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Voyeur wrote:
Unfortunately I have about 5 million in pension due me when I finally leave Korea - I imagine getting that might be hard while being behind in my taxes Sad

Never know though lol


I'd imagine coughing up 5 million in 3 weeks when you say you've got less than 1 million in the bank is probably just as hard. Sounds like you might have to work as a juicy girl.
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Voyeur



Joined: 19 Jun 2003

PostPosted: Mon May 08, 2006 9:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I see an accountant tomorrow.

Hopefully the other teachers got it wrong and I am just freaking out for no reason.

Otherwise, time to squeeze my lemon...
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Dan The Chainsawman



Joined: 05 May 2005

PostPosted: Mon May 08, 2006 5:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You might want to confirm the sum due to the tax office first. If the tax office indeed does confirm that you owe 1 mill then I would get a bit antsy.
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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Tue May 09, 2006 1:24 am    Post subject: Re: Independent Contractor = Screwed at Tax Time? Reply with quote

Voyeur wrote:
I work for an academy that has all its teachers set up as independent contractors. They advertise explicitly that this allows for a minimum tax rate of 3.3% withheld and say that you pay less taxes than other teachers because you also get less: no NHIC, no Pension contributions - nada.

No problem. Seems Fair.


Very fair...

you get screwed on your taxes... you get screwed on your medical, you get screwed out of your pension (and their 4.5% contribution to your pension) and 3.3% is MORE than salaried teachers usually pay (assuming the boss is really paying your taxes according to the tax schedules).

YOU GOT F**KED

AND.... IF you have an E2 visa... you are a salaried employee by law....

GO TO THE TAX office and get their help...

if you are F2, F4 or F5... you're on your own but most likely you got screwed even worse.
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Voyeur



Joined: 19 Jun 2003

PostPosted: Tue May 09, 2006 2:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So e-2 viasa holders can't be "independent contractors"?
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chiaa



Joined: 23 Aug 2003

PostPosted: Tue May 09, 2006 2:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Voyeur wrote:
So e-2 viasa holders can't be "independent contractors"?


No, you have a contract to work for that particular school. The only reason why they gave you the visa is because of the contract. They are 100% bullshitting you.

Let me let you in on a little secret. When someone in Korea gets you a visa, they sign a little sheet of paper that says they will be responsible for you while you are in the country (they have to go to a lawyer's office to do this). That responsibilty also includes any financial debts you may run out on. Use this bit of info as you see fit.

It's amazing the number of things these hogwan crooks will think up. I am almost impressed.
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Voyeur



Joined: 19 Jun 2003

PostPosted: Tue May 09, 2006 3:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I averaged about 3.5 million a month.

I work 4-10 pm 5 days a week. But I prepare for another 4 hours a week as well.

No pension (and I am Canadian so normally I get net 4.5% bonus on pension after refund).
No key money.
No severance.
No rent.
No airfare.
No vacations.
No paid-for Visa run.

Plus, the work is VERY hard for a Hogwon and class is challenging to teach. It is not a cushy job.

According to the internet, the overall monthly tax on this, no counting medical, pension etc.... i.e. PURE income tax would be about 2.8 million a year if you were a standard foreigner and no deductions (no 30% foreigner deduction etc..). According to many here, a foreigner making 3.6 million could pay less than that using his deductions. And if you were paid 2 million + free housing (same total) then even less as free housing is not txable.

Supposedly, because we are independent contractors our tax is about 4.5 million a year and that is using what deductions we can.

We thought we were doing well here, in the end, but maybe we aren't making that much money net-net after all.

I mean if you get say 2.2 million a month as a Canadian normally that is equal too:

Yearly: 26.4 million
Severance: 2.2 million
Rent @ 500,000 / month: 6 million
4.5% net Pension Refund Bonus: 1.2 million
Maintenance Fee @ Apt @ 100,000 month (not power/gas): 1.2
Airfare: 1.3 million

Total: 38.3 Million - 1 million taxes = 37.3 million

My School:

Yearly: 42 million - 4 million taxes = 38 million

OMFG its like we make 2.2 million with no medical or holidays and harder work.
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ForceOne



Joined: 25 Aug 2005

PostPosted: Tue May 09, 2006 4:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What would happen if you "forgot" to submit your tax form? I know people who haven't done their taxes for a few years...and so far so good for them, no problems...(yet)...**knocking on wood as I type**
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Voyeur



Joined: 19 Jun 2003

PostPosted: Tue May 09, 2006 7:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That may be an option - but how can I get my pension refund while never paying the taxes lol

And if I want to stay in Korea for a long time, could this all catch up to me?

Many questions, no good answers. *blech*
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