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| The Ninja |
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| The people who had the pirate/ninja party |
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| What are you talking about all of them are geniuses |
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TheFonz
Joined: 01 Dec 2005
Location: North Georgia
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 Posted: Tue May 09, 2006 12:13 pm Post subject: A bunch of idiots? You tell me. |
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Ninja Bulldog loses bout to federal agents
By KELLY SIMMONS
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
Published on: 04/13/06
ATHENS � Lesson 1: Don't run across a college campus wearing a ninja mask.
Lesson 2: If you must, don't run past a group of federal law enforcement officers.
University of Georgia sophomore Jeremiah Ransom learned both lessons the hard way Tuesday when he sprinted from a ninja-pirate party given by a campus Christian organization to the dining hall wearing a red bandanna across his face.
Agents from the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, attending a conference on campus, spotted the masked student and gave chase.
Freshman Kathleen Ruark was outside Snelling Hall when the plainclothes officers ran up with guns, yelling, "Get down."
"We had no idea who they were talking to," Ruark said. "We were crouching down."
Ransom said one of the agents pinned him to the ground with his knee, demanding, "Where's the gun?"
"I don't have a gun; I've never had a gun," Ransom said. "He said, 'I saw you with a gun. Where'd you stash it?' "
ATF Special Agent in Charge Vanessa McLemore said the officers chased Ransom after seeing him peek around a stone pillar toward the cashier's booth in a nearby parking garage. "They called for him to stop and he didn't," she said. "It was the totality of the circumstances."
Ransom was released after 30 minutes when UGA police determined he was not a threat.
He said he was "just being stupid" by wearing the bandanna.
"All my friends are telling me to sue," he said Wednesday. "I was just praying that nothing was going to happen to me."
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Bulsajo
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Tue May 09, 2006 3:18 pm Post subject: |
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| ATF sound pretty poorly trained, mabe the solution is to not let them near college campuses or anywhere children are present (hmmm, sort of treating them like convicted pedophiles, I guess...). Sorry, but ATF seems to be one of the sillier law enforcement agencies, with many already fighting for their share of funding and manpower. |
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TheFonz
Joined: 01 Dec 2005
Location: North Georgia
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| Posted: Tue May 09, 2006 6:41 pm Post subject: |
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Bulsajo said
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| ATF sound pretty poorly trained, mabe the solution is to not let them near college campuses or anywhere children are present (hmmm, sort of treating them like convicted pedophiles, I guess...). Sorry, but ATF seems to be one of the sillier law enforcement agencies, with many already fighting for their share of funding and manpower. |
I agree and not to mention what happened in Waco 1993. If the link doesn't work for some reason you can always do a search for Uga student loses bout with federal agents. Another student took a picture from a phone. ATF sure looks ridiculous.
I also stumbled upon this article. http://www.rickross.com/reference/waco/waco307.html
These articles go great together.
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Changes at the ATF since the raid:
"For all agents, there is more training and more communication, not only up and down organizational charts but across the lines as well.
"For commanders, there are more command scenario drills, better "stop and go" control systems to go ahead with or call off a raid, and rules to keep those in charge behind the lines where they can oversee the situation. Agency commanders study alternatives to attacks and fallback plans.
"The agency has expanded intelligence-gathering and negotiation methods.
"The agency teaches the ethics of critical incident responses, when agents ask themselves: "Is this the right thing to be doing? Have I exhausted ... every other alternative?"
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cruisemonkey
Joined: 04 Jul 2005
Location: Hopefully, the same place as my luggage.
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| Posted: Tue May 09, 2006 9:11 pm Post subject: |
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happeningthang
Joined: 26 Apr 2003
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| Posted: Tue May 09, 2006 9:31 pm Post subject: |
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I'm voting for the agents/ police officers who are well reknowned for their ability to discern reality from their own paranoid 'Chuck Norriss is really cool' fantansies.
Oh there's a dark person! What's that in his hand??
a. A grenade?
b. A gun?
c. A blueprint to bomb the white house?
d. What's it matter - just shoot. |
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seoulsucker
Joined: 05 Mar 2006
Location: The Land of the Hesitant Cutoff
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| Posted: Tue May 09, 2006 9:37 pm Post subject: |
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1.) He's covering his face
2.) He's running
3.) Doesn't obey commands to stop
Put those three together, and I'd probably take him down too. Guy's lucky he didn't get shot. |
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happeningthang
Joined: 26 Apr 2003
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| Posted: Tue May 09, 2006 9:44 pm Post subject: |
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| Yeah, maybe in America those three together can get you shot, (and I thank god I don't live in America) but the spotting of non existent guns is what clinched my nomination for biggest idiot in this story. |
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jinju
Joined: 22 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Tue May 09, 2006 10:13 pm Post subject: |
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1.) He's covering his face
2.) He's running
3.) Doesn't obey commands to stop
Put those three together, and I'd probably take him down too. Guy's lucky he didn't get shot. |
1. How is that a crime?
2. How is THAT a crime?
3. I wouldnt obey any command to stop from a bunch of people who in street clothes who are chasing me. Sorry, but no way. Anyone can claim to be a cop or an ATF agent or whetever. Screw them. The fact that there was no gun and they supposedly spotted it shows their stupidity. i would sue the agency and try and get those agents fired. |
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seoulsucker
Joined: 05 Mar 2006
Location: The Land of the Hesitant Cutoff
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| Posted: Tue May 09, 2006 10:14 pm Post subject: |
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| Yeah, maybe in America those three together can get you shot, (and I thank god I don't live in America) but the spotting of non existent guns is what clinched my nomination for biggest idiot in this story. |
Well, unfortunately as a law enforcer in American society it's a smarter play to imagine you saw a gun and treat a possible perp with caution than it is to be casual about it. That's the kind of thing that let's you go home to your kids every night. |
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happeningthang
Joined: 26 Apr 2003
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| Posted: Wed May 10, 2006 3:42 am Post subject: |
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| Well, unfortunately as a law enforcer in American society it's a smarter play to imagine you saw a gun and treat a possible perp with caution than it is to be casual about it. That's the kind of thing that let's you go home to your kids every night. |
There's an even better way to ensure you go home to your kids every night.... don't be a cop. |
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Bulsajo
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Wed May 10, 2006 8:46 am Post subject: |
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| jinju wrote: |
| seoulsucker wrote: |
1.) He's covering his face
2.) He's running
3.) Doesn't obey commands to stop
Put those three together, and I'd probably take him down too. Guy's lucky he didn't get shot. |
1. How is that a crime?
2. How is THAT a crime?
3. I wouldnt obey any command to stop from a bunch of people who in street clothes who are chasing me. Sorry, but no way. Anyone can claim to be a cop or an ATF agent or whetever. Screw them. The fact that there was no gun and they supposedly spotted it shows their stupidity. i would sue the agency and try and get those agents fired. |
True.
What if he was running because he didn't want to get busted for underage drinking?
Is that deserving of being taken down, almost shot?
I would think that an agency called ALCOHOLtobacco&firearms would have a little more sensitivity and understanding as to what sort of environment a universty campus is.
Maybe they could hold such sensitivty training in Ohio...
at Kent State. |
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Qinella
Joined: 25 Feb 2005
Location: the crib
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| Posted: Wed May 10, 2006 12:08 pm Post subject: |
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| seoulsucker wrote: |
| happeningthang wrote: |
| Yeah, maybe in America those three together can get you shot, (and I thank god I don't live in America) but the spotting of non existent guns is what clinched my nomination for biggest idiot in this story. |
Well, unfortunately as a law enforcer in American society it's a smarter play to imagine you saw a gun and treat a possible perp with caution than it is to be casual about it. That's the kind of thing that let's you go home to your kids every night. |
Very true. It's also one thing that ensures other people will never see their own kids again.
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