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Koreaboundandgagged
Joined: 19 Apr 2006 Location: USA
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Posted: Tue May 09, 2006 10:49 am Post subject: Unigwon or Foreign Elementary School? |
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Which would be better? We are awaiting offers from two places, a Unigwon in Daejeon with 5 wks vacation and a foreign school in Jeonbuk teaching K & 5/6th grade with 8 wks. vacation. The pay is very similar, 2.1 Won and 2.2 Won at the Unigwon. The working hours at the Unigwon would include split shifts and the elementary school has set hours of 9:00 to 3:05 and includes all lunches. What's the difference between Daejeon and Jeonbuk? Climate-wise? The "big city" Seoul option really isn't important to us since we have two young daughters and prefer to be near mountains/hiking. With 750,000 people in Jeonbuk I'm sure I can find all the excitement we'll need...
Thanks!
To clarify, the foreign school has mainly native Korean students with citizenships from other countries (English-speaking, I'm assuming?). |
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Yu_Bum_suk

Joined: 25 Dec 2004
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Posted: Tue May 09, 2006 3:53 pm Post subject: |
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If you're also gong to be teaching mostly elementary kids at the unigwan, I'd take the foreign language school. |
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Koreaboundandgagged
Joined: 19 Apr 2006 Location: USA
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Posted: Tue May 09, 2006 4:31 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks for the comment.
From what I was told in the interview, 20% of my time would be spent off-site teaching kids and adults conversational English. The other 80% of the time I would be on-site teaching the equivalent of a freshman English class.
What about the location differences? I know Daejeon is about twice the size, but again, this is of no huge concern to me as 750,000 people is plenty. I come from smaller communities and much prefer them to larger metropolitan areas. |
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Yu_Bum_suk

Joined: 25 Dec 2004
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Posted: Tue May 09, 2006 4:46 pm Post subject: |
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I don't know either city, really. You could try asking Quinella about Daejon - I'm sure he'd be very helpful.
If it's teaching 80% uni students I'd take the unigwan job, but that's just because I don't like elementary kids very much. However, be careful about believing the 80/20 ratio. It could turn out to be much more than than. |
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Pyongshin Sangja

Joined: 20 Apr 2003 Location: I love baby!
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Posted: Tue May 09, 2006 6:59 pm Post subject: |
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Jeonbuk isn't a city, it's a province. It's Jeollabukdo, North Jeolla Prov.
You're probably going to Jeonju, which is bigger and better than Daejeon.
Find out where in Jeonbuk. |
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Koreaboundandgagged
Joined: 19 Apr 2006 Location: USA
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Posted: Tue May 09, 2006 7:00 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks for the suggestions, Yu_Bum. Much appreciated. Really, though, how much "smaller" is a city with 750K vs. a city with 1.5 Mil.? I'm just looking to hit an occasional bar, take my family to occasional dinners, catch a movie here and there, and maybe find a nice hot springs once in a while. And some hiking in the mountains. While I do really like to cut loose now and then, my ripe old age of almost thirty doesn't like the effects much anymore. I'd much rather sit in on a traditional Budhist chant and chat with the locals (using as much broken Korean as I can muster) afterward. There, that's us.  |
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Koreaboundandgagged
Joined: 19 Apr 2006 Location: USA
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Posted: Tue May 09, 2006 7:06 pm Post subject: |
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Why is it bigger and better than Daejeon? I thought Daejeon had a pop. of 1.5 million? Isn't Jeonju around 750,000? What is the weather difference between Daejeon and Jeonju?
Thanks. |
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Pyongshin Sangja

Joined: 20 Apr 2003 Location: I love baby!
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Posted: Tue May 09, 2006 7:06 pm Post subject: |
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Wait, yeah. Jeonju is much smaller than Daejeon, but you still haven't told me if you are indeed going to Jeonju or somewhere else in Jeollabukdo.
As for weather, Jeonju is much warmer and a lot windier than Daejeon, it's a lot flatter than Daejeon which is surrounded by mountains. I just like Jeonju for being relatively undeveloped, cleaner and having better food.
You might really enjoy Daejeon more for being on the KTX line to Seoul. Takes 53 minutes. Jeonju is 3.5 hrs by slow train from Seoul. It's, um, rustic.
I used to work for these guys, they set me up well:
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Do you want to work for a reputable employer that you can be sure to be paid on time? Would you like ten weeks paid vacation instead of two? If so, then we have the job for you and you only need a B.A. to apply!
1. Requirements
a. English native speaker who has at least Bachelor's Degree
b. English native speaker who is currently living in South Korea is preferred.
c. A person with an EFL or ESL certificate is preferred.
2. Duties
a. Required teaching hours: 18 hours per week Monday to Friday plus overtime.
b. Courses: English conversation for university students as well as elementary school children.
3. Salary and Benefits
a. The basic salary is 1,600,000 won per month. However, the overtime pay is 20,000 won per hour and usually the total salary is 2.0- 2.5 million per month.
b. No less than 10 weeks of paid vacation in addition to days off( Usually there are about ten weeks' vacation per year)
c. Severance pay(one month's salary) and flight fee(1,000,000 won; half on arrival / half upon contract completion)
d. Single apartment or house near campus(no sharing).
4. Documents required for application:
a. Resume with a cover letter
b. Copy of Degree
c. Copies of passport(photo page: photo, date of birth, nationality)
d. Letter of release(only for applicants who are currently working in South Korea)
e. Copies of academic transcripts
f. Recommendation letters by school authorities or others
5. Contract Period: June 26, 2006 - June 25, 2007
6. Application Period: May 1, 2006 - May 30, 2006
* Contact people:
Prof. Lee, Il-yeon
Director of FLEC, Yesan Campus, Kongju National University
Address: Foreign Language Education Center, Kongju National University,
1 Daehe-ri, Yesan-eup Yesan-gun, Chung-nam(340-802), S-Korea
Cel: 016-9584-3651(Tel: 041-330-1170~1)
E-mail address: [email protected]
James Zerfoss
Senior teacher, FREC
Cel: 010-6875-4439
If you have any questions about the job please send an email to [email protected].
Please send your resume and all documents by e-mail as soon as possible. |
http://www.eslcafe.com/jobs/korea/index.cgi?read=18618 |
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Koreaboundandgagged
Joined: 19 Apr 2006 Location: USA
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Posted: Tue May 09, 2006 7:25 pm Post subject: |
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Yes, I'm sorry, it is Jeonju. What do you mean by "much flatter?" I mean, from what Google Earth looks like, there should be mountains around the city!?!? I've heard about the good food, but really, what's the diff. between 750K and 1.5 Mil. people? We don't really care about "rustic," in fact, we embrace it. You should see the rustic people where we live now! University town, but I'm talking chilly (though very warm) northern Minnesota folks that look like actual vikings! Well, almost. |
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Yu_Bum_suk

Joined: 25 Dec 2004
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Posted: Tue May 09, 2006 7:36 pm Post subject: |
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Koreaboundandgagged wrote: |
Thanks for the suggestions, Yu_Bum. Much appreciated. Really, though, how much "smaller" is a city with 750K vs. a city with 1.5 Mil.? I'm just looking to hit an occasional bar, take my family to occasional dinners, catch a movie here and there, and maybe find a nice hot springs once in a while. And some hiking in the mountains. While I do really like to cut loose now and then, my ripe old age of almost thirty doesn't like the effects much anymore. I'd much rather sit in on a traditional Budhist chant and chat with the locals (using as much broken Korean as I can muster) afterward. There, that's us.  |
What matters more is your location within each respective city itself. If a city is large enough to have a few large supermarkets, a department store, and a cinema you should be all right. A city with 750K should have everything you need. |
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Pyongshin Sangja

Joined: 20 Apr 2003 Location: I love baby!
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Posted: Wed May 10, 2006 3:58 am Post subject: |
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What do you mean by "much flatter?" |
Jeonju is located in Korea's largest agricultural plain. The mountains are not far, but Jeonju is on the edge of a plain that slopes towards the Yellow Sea. Daejeon is not far, but it is surrounded by mountains. After spending a while surrounded by mountains in Seoul and Daejeon, Jeonju gives a strong impression of space.
Look at the shading on this map:
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Koreaboundandgagged
Joined: 19 Apr 2006 Location: USA
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Posted: Wed May 10, 2006 9:46 am Post subject: Accepted positions!! Question about contract~ |
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Thanks for the clarification, Pyonghin. Having revealed my naievety...is the sea visible from Jeonju, or is it at relative sea-level thus making it impossible to sea the see?
Nonetheless, I'm 99.9% sure this is where we are going. I basically accepted the two positions last night (early this a.m.) and am now awaiting the official contract. The owner (who speaks flawless English) mentioned they normally signed two-year contracts with teachers. Is this normal??? I guess this is a pretty posh place from the sound of it--located on the grounds of the former provincial governor's mansion! Our apartment is on the grounds and is a 2-3 min. walk. The downtown area is about a 10-min. drive--perhaps a bit longer by bicycle I imagine. We are very excited!
Thanks again for all your advice and commnets; they are a newbie appreciated--I assure you. |
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