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Gopher · Joined: 04 Jun 2005

Just a pulse check...

Kuros · Joined: 27 Apr 2004

The Chinese right now cannot even project power into their own provinces. Reports tell us that Manchurian labor is disgruntled and rebellious, meanwhile Xinjiang has problems with its Uigher natives. Meanwhile, China is contained by Everest to the South, Nothingness to the North, and Taiwan and Korea to the East. The only place they can go is West.

China will not become a global hegemon in my lifetime, but if it turns some of its corruption around it could certainly be in the running for a regionally dominant power.

manlyboy · Posted: Wed May 10, 2006 10:03 pm Post subject:

Rapidly increasing pollution and the one child per family rule suggests the Chinese may end up sick and old before they end up rich and powerful.

jaganath69 · Joined: 17 Jul 2003

Does China wish to project power is the better question.

Hater Depot · Joined: 29 Mar 2005

Their economy may appear to be roaring along but vast swathes of people in the rural provinces are not being included in that. And the banking system is likely very corrupt and full of bad debt. South Korea overcame those problems, but in a way, SK actually had many more factors in its favor. I don't see China wanting to project power anywhere other than Taiwan and North Korea, but I do worry that it might undergo a severe economic crisis that drags down the whole region a la 1997-98.

Satori · Joined: 09 Dec 2005 Location: Above it all

mindmetoo · Joined: 02 Feb 2004

There was a really good sci fi series written back in '90s called CHUNG KUO: THE MIDDLE KINGDOM. This was back when the Japanese were wiping the floor with the US trade wise and Bush Sr was puking up sushi and begging Japan to play fair. It hypothesized a future of China Uber Alles. Great prose although the first couple books dwell a bit too much on weird violent sex. I think the series runs into 9 books, dozens of characters... Probably a lot of it is out of print.

Nowhere Man · Joined: 08 Feb 2004

I chose option 4. Hegemony is a bit too much. Don't think I can predict that. Rather, will China become a 2nd superpower? Yes.

I assume that Goph is at least in part calling this poll based on my comments, so I'll add this:

Is the US financing China's rise? Yes.

Can a capitalist authoritarian state outproduce a capitalist republican state?

I think yes, but I think the bigger question is whether they can out-innovate.

In this respect, I don't think so.

Disclaimer: Would China becoming a hegemon be good? No. But as I stated above...I think the poll is jumping the obvious.

some waygug-in · Joined: 25 Jan 2003

I think China will increasingly become a major economic force in the world, just from the sheer population numbers, low wages, lack of labor standards etc. This will have a huge economic impact on the rest of the world...........including the US, but I don't think China will become a superpower any time soon.

Bulsajo · Joined: 16 Jan 2003

Bulsajo · Joined: 16 Jan 2003

Hegemony?
When I think of Hegemony I break it into categories- economic, cultural, military...
And I also think there is regional and global scope.

Will China have complete Hegemony (economic, cultural, political) on a global scale?
I don't know, but I doubt it.

Will it have total regional Hegemony?
More possible, but I think Russia, Japan and India won't let it happen easily, if they can.

I think the implied question, or rather broader question, inherent in the op is "what sort of system will we see in the future?"

We went from 5-6 Great Powers to 2 Superpowers to 1 Superpower; Will the US remain the superpower or will another take its place?
Will we possibly see a 3 superpower system- US, China, Russia?
Or will things revert to a Pre-WWI great power system, with EU, Russia, India, China, Japan, USA all jockeying for position through numerous alliances and rivalries?
I hope not, because that situation led to 2 world wars already, and i think that's enough.

Bo Peabody · Joined: 25 Aug 2005

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Bulsajo · Joined: 16 Jan 2003

igotthisguitar · Posted: Fri May 12, 2006 8:11 pm Post subject:

1950 Chinese occupation of Tibet

1950-53 Korean War

The Chinese Invade Tibet
by Richard Cavendish

October 7th, 1950

There is some uncertainty over the precise date, but it was apparently on October 7th that units of the Chinese so-called People's Liberation Army crossed the River Yangtze into Kham, the eastern province of Tibet in the foothills of the Himalayas.

Varying estimates put their numbers at 40,000 or more than 80,000, but either way they were in overwhelming strength. The invasion had been planned in detail by Deng Xiaoping, a future Chinese premier, and two other senior Communist officials in China's Southwest Military Region.

The rest of the world was preoccupied with events in Korea at the time, but the Chinese Communist regime had been announcing its intention of integrating Tibet with 'the motherland' for months. The Tibetan government in Lhasa, which had appealed for help in vain to both Britain and the United States, declined to receive Chinese emissaries, though a Tibetan delegation in India held inconclusive talks with the Chinese ambassador there.

Back in January, Beijing had released a telegram from the Panchen Lama to Chairman Mao. 'On behalf of the Tibetan people, we respectfully plead for troops to be sent to liberate Tibet, to wipe out reactionaries, expel the imperialists � and liberate the Tibetan people.'

The Panchen Lama was traditionally one of the most important religious figures in Tibet. This one was twelve years old and living in China.