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[SuperHero]

[hermes.trismegistus]

At least 3 INTJs - not bad.

We have a [global] blog that gets pretty regular posts.

Namaste.

[crazylemongirl]

[Paji eh Wong]

That's odd. From what I understand INTJ is one of the rarest types. Something like 1.6% of the US popn.

[ella]

Maybe because they're all in Korea, lol. They are rare but INTJs have that crucial J preference in line with the general population. That makes for a very different life as compared with INTPs. INTXs in general are overrepresented online, for obvious reasons.

[hermes.trismegistus]

INTJ vs. INTP:

Coffeezombie: INTJ's get things done. INTP's put them off and wait until the last minute.

Nemesis: INTJ's have that look of confidence about them.

Meshou: INTJs are more mystical in their internal experience. While INTPs use systems to formulate their own thoughts, but their interactions with the outside world are focused on open ended, non goal oriented abstraction, while INTJs create systems as a way of interacting with the real world. INTPs are less observant. INTJs are better at sorting out their own feelings and priorities. INTJs are probably a lot better at relationships, but more akward at socializing.

Esteban: INTP thinking is contemplative, involving an inner play of ideas. thinking for its own sake and is always directed inward to subjective ideas and personal convictions rather than outward to practical outcomes. The main concern of such thinking is to elaborate as fully as possible all the ramifications and implications of a seminal idea. As a consequence, introverted thinking can be complex, turgid and overly scrupulous. To the extent that it withdraws from objective reality, it may also become totally abstract, symbolic or mystical.

INTJ thinking is driven by the objective evidence of the senses or by objective (collective) ideas that derive from tradition or learning. Its purpose is to abstract conceptual relationships from objective experience, linking ideas together in a rational, logical fashion. Furthermore, any conclusions that are drawn are always directed outward to some objective product or practical outcome. Thinking is never carried out for its own sake, merely as some private, subjective enterprise.

Neptron: INTJs are a lot more pragmatic than INTPs, from my own experience. There needs to be a sense of purpose for the INTJ, a contingency plan for every plan. They probably more predisposed to an air of confidence than INTPs.

There's one thing about INTJs - they're incredibly secretive and reserved, moreso than INTPs. I think out of every type, it is the INTJ who needs their privacy the most, and who will react the most violently (not literally) if it's breached.

Aklight: People always say that INTJs are more confident than INTPs. This might true. Possibly because the INTJ has achievements that they can actually show people? They know themselves as a person who get's things done. As an INTP, how can you be as confident if you never actually try any of your ideas - if you never make use of your knowledge or your ideas. For all you know, you are wrong about things, and you are just too scared to find out.

More @ INTPCentral.

Namaste.

[ella]

If you want to read up on the different types, go to the source. "Gifts Differing: Understanding Personality Type," by Isabel Briggs Myers.

[hermes.trismegistus]

[Fredbob]

Very interesting discussion. INTP, ENTP here- depends on my mood as I've taken the test a few times. I find that somehow my tendency to go with my gut and subordinate actual words under my kinesthetic "feel" for the situation has served me well here so far.

Just watching interactions between Koreans is pretty fascinating to me and when I need confirmation about a correct analysis of a situation I always rely on one-to-one communication. Only problem is that at times

I slip too far into my "observer" role and sometimes can go half a day feeling like I didn't actually communicate with anyone.

I think the P helps delay decisions and kind of falls into step with the Korean mentality or waiting till the last possible moment to do anything.

On the negative side, I know a good number of basic constructions of complicated sentences but I still don't know the word for "door".
INTPs rule.

Curious though for all you J's, how do you stay here without judging the hell out of everything, have you taken the test recently, my guess is that your typing might have significantly changed. Just a theory..

[dogbert]

I wonder how "T"s stand it...this is definitely an "F" friendly environment.

[EFLtrainer]

Some on-line thing-a-ma-jig says I'm an INFP.

The P is the problem in Korea, no doubt.

[Fredbob]

Granted, this is a dumbed down version but it has been a few years since I studied this in-depth.

How do you prefer to organise your life? If you prefer your life to be planned, stable and organised then your preference is for Judging (not to be confused with 'Judgemental', which is quite different). This is denoted by the letter "J".
If you prefer to go with the flow, to maintain flexibility and respond to things as they arise, then your preference is for Perception. This is denoted by the letter "P".

The P is what keeps me sane, especially in hagwon hell.

[EFLtrainer]

[Fredbob]

I just treat any statement a Korean person makes outside of the classroom as a statement of possibility or a statement of relative probability rather than fact.
Only kicks me in the xss when I inadvertently think I can avoid getting out of an unwanted social obligation by saying "Maybe". Somehow, when Koreans say it to me, it means NO, but when I say "Maybe.." it means SURE, I'd Love To.

Think my T side has taken a beating in my short time here, I'm afraid to take the test again, somebody should do a study on this, any Jungians on board, I might even be willing to help.

[hermes.trismegistus]