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mindmetoo



Joined: 02 Feb 2004

PostPosted: Tue May 16, 2006 12:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

RACETRAITOR wrote:

The fan manufacturers, the one group who would have a vested interest in calling BS on fan death, believe in it too.


Interesting. What a great way to get people to rebuy fans. "Now with timers... we guarantee you'll never experience a fan death."
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Qinella



Joined: 25 Feb 2005
Location: the crib

PostPosted: Tue May 16, 2006 2:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

flotsam wrote:
eamo wrote:
My little theory is that it was used as a cover story to hide suicide and spread from there.


My theory has always been that it was the Park, Chung-Hee government that spread the rumor in order to decrease electricity usage during the summer.

As another thought, not that this subject hasn't been belabored black and blue, the whole point is moot. I mean, really, when was the last time, when it was hot enough to warrant the use of a fan, and you didn't have AC, that you slept, with said fan on, AND with the windows closed?

Shenanigans.


I've never slept with the window open in my whole life.


However, I will point out that my brother used to sleep with the ceiling fan on as high as it would go, and a floor fan pointed right at his head about two feet away, also set at highest speed. He's still alive.
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flotsam



Joined: 28 Mar 2006

PostPosted: Tue May 16, 2006 3:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Qinella wrote:


I've never slept with the window open in my whole life.



Shenanigans!!

You are telling me that in the in-between-seasons you just kept the windows closed? Or have you always had AC? I mean, even when I was living in the City, we would suffer the street noise to get some air if we didn't have AC.

Question. Which may clarify this all for me: Did your mother carry you around on her back with a blanket draped over your little baby-Qinella noggin with your little Qinella-baby drool messing up her shirt? This has always been my theory on why Koreans simply LOVE stuffy claustrophobic spaces: it reminds them of womb #2.
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Satori



Joined: 09 Dec 2005
Location: Above it all

PostPosted: Tue May 16, 2006 3:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

flotsam wrote:
This has always been my theory on why Koreans simply LOVE stuffy claustrophobic spaces: it reminds them of womb #2.

A womb with a view? Laughing
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flotsam



Joined: 28 Mar 2006

PostPosted: Tue May 16, 2006 4:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Satori wrote:
A womb with a view? Laughing


And an "aigoooo".
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denverdeath



Joined: 21 May 2005
Location: Boo-sahn

PostPosted: Tue May 16, 2006 5:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Keeping the windows closed may keep those pesky mosquitos at bay for a little longer.

Anyway.

I decided to give definitive proof to Korean students about how it's impossible for a fan to kill you in a closed room. A vacuum I understand as there is no oxygen in a vacuum.

I camped out in my bathroom for two nights. I slept on the floor with a kick-ass fan blowing in my face for the whole evening. Twice. The door was closed tightly as was the window. I videotaped the "event".

Alas, students tell me I was lucky on both nights and maybe it was because I'm Cdn, not Korean. I've even had nurses tell me this.
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ajuma



Joined: 18 Feb 2003
Location: Anywere but Seoul!!

PostPosted: Tue May 16, 2006 6:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's a good article:

http://joongangdaily.joins.com/200409/22/200409222123324579900091009101.html

I've given up trying to convince Koreans that fan death isn't real. No point in beating my head against a wall! They're NEVER going to be convinced, so why try? Rolling Eyes
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ulsanchris



Joined: 19 Jun 2003
Location: take a wild guess

PostPosted: Tue May 16, 2006 7:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Gord Giesbrecht, a physical education professor at the University of Manitoba in Canada, is a leading expert on hypothermia. He said he has never heard of fan death or anything like it.

this was taken from the above article. Why would a physical education professor be an expert on hypothermia.
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Hollywoodaction



Joined: 02 Jul 2004

PostPosted: Tue May 16, 2006 8:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

flotsam wrote:
eamo wrote:
My little theory is that it was used as a cover story to hide suicide and spread from there.


My theory has always been that it was the Park, Chung-Hee government that spread the rumor in order to decrease electricity usage during the summer.

As another thought, not that this subject hasn't been belabored black and blue, the whole point is moot. I mean, really, when was the last time, when it was hot enough to warrant the use of a fan, and you didn't have AC, that you slept, with said fan on, AND with the windows closed?

Shenanigans.


Dictators spreading BS? No, it couldn't be.

The conspiracy theorist in me thinks it might have something to do with the police and the government using this to hide their incompetence or the ir role in the deaths of some of the victims of 'fan-death' during the 70's and 80's. But, you're probably on to something.
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ajuma



Joined: 18 Feb 2003
Location: Anywere but Seoul!!

PostPosted: Tue May 16, 2006 2:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ulsanchris wrote:
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Gord Giesbrecht, a physical education professor at the University of Manitoba in Canada, is a leading expert on hypothermia. He said he has never heard of fan death or anything like it.

this was taken from the above article. Why would a physical education professor be an expert on hypothermia.


No so farfetched as it sounds!

http://www.umanitoba.ca/faculties/physed/research/people/giesbrecht.shtml
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mindmetoo



Joined: 02 Feb 2004

PostPosted: Tue May 16, 2006 4:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ulsanchris wrote:
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Gord Giesbrecht, a physical education professor at the University of Manitoba in Canada, is a leading expert on hypothermia. He said he has never heard of fan death or anything like it.

this was taken from the above article. Why would a physical education professor be an expert on hypothermia.


What would prevent him from being an expert? Is a university level PE program all about teaching dodge ball?
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tomato



Joined: 31 Jan 2003
Location: I get so little foreign language experience, I must be in Koreatown, Los Angeles.

PostPosted: Tue May 16, 2006 5:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

One of my former directors always exhorted me to unplug the electric heater before leaving the apartment.
According to her, it would be a fire hazard to leave the heater plugged in even if it's turned off.
I've been told that this is a Korean urban myth too.

Surely a walk-in refrigerator uses more electricity than a small space heater, but the mind associates fire with heaters than with refrigerators.
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Hollywoodaction



Joined: 02 Jul 2004

PostPosted: Tue May 16, 2006 6:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ajuma wrote:
Here's a good article:

http://joongangdaily.joins.com/200409/22/200409222123324579900091009101.html

I've given up trying to convince Koreans that fan death isn't real. No point in beating my head against a wall! They're NEVER going to be convinced, so why try? Rolling Eyes


"We've got people lying in snowbanks overnight here in Winnipeg and they survive"

Yup...and they're generally drunk, too. Like he says, a 10 degree drop in body temperature. A fan alone can't do that. Even if it can drop your body temperature by 2 degrees, it isn't sufficient. Besides, fans don't changing the temperature of the air, it feels cool because it makes your sweat evaporate faster. You'd get dehydrated before your body temperature was anywhere near 28 degrees. You'd simply stop sweating. Besides, we're warm-blooded animals, after all. Our body are adapted to keep a constant body temperature.
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mindmetoo



Joined: 02 Feb 2004

PostPosted: Tue May 16, 2006 9:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

tomato wrote:
One of my former directors always exhorted me to unplug the electric heater before leaving the apartment.
According to her, it would be a fire hazard to leave the heater plugged in even if it's turned off.
I've been told that this is a Korean urban myth too.

Surely a walk-in refrigerator uses more electricity than a small space heater, but the mind associates fire with heaters than with refrigerators.


There was a brand of North American coffee maker that would short out and burst into flames, even if turned off. To this day, I always unplug my coffee marker shortly after use.

Maybe there was a brand of space heater in Korea that would short out and catch on fire.
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ajuma



Joined: 18 Feb 2003
Location: Anywere but Seoul!!

PostPosted: Mon May 22, 2006 12:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The rain today brought out another Korean urban myth:

If you don't use an umbrella, you'll go bald from acid rain! Laughing
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