Korean Job Discussion Forums

[UncleAlex]

Anyone who holds an MA or MBA or MSC deserves to be paid a higher salary
than a BA holder with over 10 years TESOL experience. Without a doubt, someone
who has written a thesis on ancient Chinese artifacts, the stream of consciousness,
stem cell development, or religion and capitalism should be paid more
money for all that hard work back in college. It doesn't matter whether
he has been trained to teach or has gained many years teaching experience.

[rothkowitz]

They've written an up to 50,000 word thesis.

If they're teaching English why shouldn't this be reflected in their pay scale?

[Yu_Bum_suk]

I can live with that.

[alexh]

I don't know...I have authored about 200 reports and had 78 of them published. Just because I don't have an MA means I should get paid less than someone fresh out of school?

[Demophobe]

[ttompatz]

[rothkowitz]

alexh,

pitch yourself accordingly.

[alexh]

heh?

[rothkowitz]

I mean,like,your pitch to sell yourself in an interview.

if you've published extensively that mean a lot in an interview,MA or no MA.

[UncleAlex]

One can successfully write a 700,000 word thesis in English on ,let's say,
Kant's theory of knowledge, but that doesn't necessarily mean he can also
teach English more effectively than a teacher who has no M.A.. I'd sooner
pay a person who holds a BEd or has 10 years more teaching experience
more money than the brilliant student of philosophy who thinks and writes
well. In Korea, these latter individuals are actually paid less. Alas!

[rothkowitz]

Well,a lot of academics have a pronounced difficulty in rendering the quick of an argument anyway...ie,they can be waffling pedants.

That just means they perhaps aren't very interesting people.Academic skills are one thing,an ability to strike up a rapport with students is another.

[Demophobe]

My bi-polar Uncle.

[Francis-Pax]

[PRagic]

Why not pay them more? If there were two people up for a job, and they both had an equal amount of experience but only one had their MA, wouldn't you hire the one with better academic qualifications?

It's funny to see all the BA holders defending their positions HERE when they would never be allowed to teach at any university anywhere else. Funny how these 'dedicated' teachers place so much emphasis on 10 years of experience, but never bother to broaden their knowledge of the field by going back to school. If you are at an institute, fine, but for university work? Not. I wish Korea would make the MA mandatory for all university ESL positions nation wide.

[Francis-Pax]