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Axl Rose
Joined: 16 Feb 2006
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Your right (you're grammar is appalling - geddit?), I meant re-signing.
Elsewhere, fair point, I stand corrected. |
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Homer
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| Posted: Wed May 17, 2006 2:33 am Post subject: |
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Axl,
Sorry but higher education tends to lead to higher pay. That is just the way it is. A MA will not make a person a better teacher (you are right there) but it will give that person a set of qualifications that can ad to his or her teaching skills.... |
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schwa
Joined: 18 Jan 2003
Location: Yap
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| Posted: Wed May 17, 2006 3:11 am Post subject: Re: TERRIBLE teachers with M.A. |
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This is not intended as a slam on folks with M.A.s - that's just STUPID!
However, I do wanna make the point that having an MA - any old MA - is not deserving of a higher salary.
I'm on 2m right now. No problem - it's my first teaching job. I know someone who started on 2.4. No experience - they have an MA in something about literature. Knowing Milton in and out doesn't mean you know how to teach ESL to middle school kids if you ask me, but those are the salary levels.
I've been here nearly a year. I've settled in well, everyone likes me, I've learnt quite a lot of Korean, etc etc.
This person with an MA in WHAT EVER......
(a) is unpopular at school with students and co-teachers (a former co-teacher of theirs told me);
(b) smokes in full view of the students;
(c) never eats lunch with the Korean teachers...always sat in a corner alone with sandwiches...doesn't like Korean food. It's only soup for God's sake, what's your problem? Ah yes....has an MA but lives on a diet of burger and fries and coke! Nice. 
(d) has learnt not one lick of Korean. Can't even read! In my opinion, if you've been here over 4 months and can't even read students' names, that's just PATHETIC! Still does the whole 'hands' thing when buying things and speaks in her difficult, highly regionalized English.
(e) has major chip on shoulder about the U.S. and England - a lefty of course.
(f) openly doesn't like Korea.
Now, I ain't saying just because person X has an MA they should do the opposite to (a)-(f), but I don't reckon people with non-directly relevant (ie. Education, TESOL) M.A.s with no experience should automatically get higher salaries. Especially if they're like the person I described. Take your hipster clothes and take a hike buddy. |
So I read this & tried to reconcile it with your title (TERRIBLE teachers with M.A.) & failed. Why "teachers" plural? It seems you've met one individual you dont like. You're assessing his teaching ability on the basis of some 3rd-party's say-so. This person is ostensibly "unpopular" but you evidently are Mr Popularity. Whoopee for you. This person is less capable than you because he prefers sandwiches? Because he's not the master of assimilation you boastfully claim to be? Because you dont like his clothes?
I dont know anything about this person, but its clear that yes you are indeed taking a "slam on folks with M.A.s" on very feeble grounds & "STUPID" seems an apt term for your post. |
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