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gypsyfish
Joined: 17 Jan 2003
Location: Seoul
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| Khunopie wrote: |
I heard they were going to sensor this dialogue:
Jesus: Moses, would you like to suck on the chocolate salty balls?
Moses: Some candy?
Jesus: No, my balls!
*sensorship is wrong* |
You couldn't be more right - 'sensorship' IS wrong. |
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Satori
Joined: 09 Dec 2005
Location: Above it all
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| Posted: Wed May 17, 2006 8:02 am Post subject: |
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| Cigar_Guy wrote: |
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| A very valid complaint, and of the biggest problems with the bible it's self. |
Remind me who your avatar is--he's that secular scientist guy, right? The one who wrote and spoke about objective truths and scientific inquiry and denying the existence of anything larger than what we can see and touch right in front of us? What was his name again? I forget. |
One of his students asked Buddha, "Are you the messiah?"
"No", answered Buddha.
"Then are you a healer?"
"No", Buddha replied.
"Then are you a teacher?" the student persisted.
"No, I am not a teacher."
"Then what are you?" asked the student, exasperated.
"I am awake!", Buddha replied.
The man is also known to have uttered these pithy phrases...
We are what we think. All that we are arises with our thoughts. With our thoughts, we make our world.
Do not dwell in the past, do not dream of the future, concentrate the mind on the present moment. |
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AbbeFaria
Joined: 17 May 2005
Location: Gangnam
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| Posted: Wed May 17, 2006 10:20 am Post subject: |
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As for the proposed ban, god you christians suck. I loathe you almost as much as I loathe muslims. I thought I'd left all this fundi screaming back in the States, but I find it just as present here. And this isn't to any christian in particular, just a flame in the fundi neighborhood. Why do you have to have your fingers in everyone else's pie? Make your own pie. This is my pie and if I want it with a healthy dose of blashphemy, I'll make it with a healthy dose of blashphemy and a dash of heresy thrown in to ward of seasonal allergies.
And, also came across this today: http://movies.monstersandcritics.com/news/article_1164313.php/Thailand_to_cut_Da_Vinci_movie_after_Christian_protests
And this why I felt justified in throwing muslims in the above rant: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/4985370.stm
Seems their working together in that one. It's nice to see the Muslims taking time out of their busy Jihading day to support Christians on atleast one thing. Maybe they can all join forces and work for censorship and thought control the world over. Oh the possiblities.
I fart in your general direction.
�S�
*quick update* They didn't get the ban: http://times.hankooki.com/lpage/nation/200605/kt2006051617502611990.htm
Thank god someone has some sense. |
You do realize that this is only a small proportion of "fundis" as you call them?
Well, obviously you don't as your post reveals. And that makes you just as close-minded as they are, only about different things. |
I disagree. I think that many many fundis (fundementalist christians, for anyone who hadn't picked up on it) seek to enslave me to their bible and/or church, but many of them are too lazy to actually do it. The ones that do succeed have succeeded disgustingly well in the States. You can't swing a philandering minister without knocking over four baptists carrying anti-abortion signs and a pentacostal mother's group trying to burn all the school's copies of Harry Potter.
And I'm not close-minded at all. I don't care what anyone believes, worships, practices, eats, drinks or who/what they fornicate with. As long as it's kept away from my personal space. Even if you offend me, I won't ask you to stop, just maybe move it out of my line of sight, or I'll move myself. The main difference between me and them is I don't think I have the divine right to control my fellow human beings. I don't think I am the way, the truth and the light to anything. (Although I might fudge the details a bit to get a girl into bed  )
And the problem with fundis is they follow you. The bang on your door and barge into your bedroom and ransack your porn collection. All in the name of "morality", which is such a joke of a word it ought to be followed by some sort of rude bodily function whenever it's uttered.
I'm the ultimate libertarian. Do whatever makes you feel happy. As long as everything's consensual and you aren't hurting anyone else but yourself, there should be no restictions. This applies to sex, drugs, music, books, theater, MOVIES, food, clothing, hair color, personal grooming habits, etc.
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Satori
Joined: 09 Dec 2005
Location: Above it all
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| Posted: Wed May 17, 2006 10:40 am Post subject: |
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Yep, it may be a small portion of fundamentals protesting, but one can take a very reasonable guess that a large number of fundamentals are against it.
And just as a side note, have you noticed how many interesting words are contained in the word "fundamental"?
fun, fund, dam, amen, men, mental... |
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flotsam
Joined: 28 Mar 2006
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| Posted: Wed May 17, 2006 3:20 pm Post subject: |
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| Yu_Bum_suk wrote: |
| And people complain that Muslims are idiots... |
As a Christian I am deeply offended by this movie. I will be outside the American embassy at midnight with some petrol bombs. Please feel free to come and join in the fanatical rampage. Remember to bring your 'Death to Tom Hanks' placards. I have also put a fatwa on Ron Howard. |
Three words for you:
Abortion Clinics.
and
Yawn. |
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gypsyfish
Joined: 17 Jan 2003
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Wed May 17, 2006 4:20 pm Post subject: |
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I just read that the film board of Thailand has cut the last ten minutes of The Da Vinci Code. THAT would suck. Go to the movie and miss the denouement.
http://www.imdb.com/news/sb/2006-05-17/ |
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cubanlord
Joined: 08 Jul 2005
Location: In Japan!
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| Posted: Wed May 17, 2006 5:32 pm Post subject: |
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| Got my tickets for Sat. 9:30am baby! |
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TheUrbanMyth
Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired
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| Posted: Wed May 17, 2006 7:52 pm Post subject: |
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| Satori wrote: |
Yep, it may be a small portion of fundamentals protesting, but one can take a very reasonable guess that a large number of fundamentals are against it.
And just as a side note, have you noticed how many interesting words are contained in the word "fundamental"?
fun, fund, dam, amen, men, mental... |
But as long as that large number keeps quiet about it, do you really care? Do you really care what personal beliefs others have so long as to keep it to themselves and don't try to force it on others (which IS what MOST of them are doing).
If you don't then why even make this post? |
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TheUrbanMyth
Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired
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| Posted: Wed May 17, 2006 7:56 pm Post subject: |
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| AbbeFaria wrote: |
| [I disagree. I think that many many fundis (fundementalist christians, for anyone who hadn't picked up on it) seek to enslave me to their bible and/or church, but many of them are too lazy to actually do it. � |
Again, so if they don't do it, what do you care? People are entitled to their beliefs, as long as they don't force it down others throats, right? So if they're too "lazy" that should make you happy.
BTB many "fundis" don't bother "enslaving" anyone. Not because they are lazy but simply believe that if one is going to come to God, s/he will do so on her/his own. Not ALL believe this of course, but many do. |
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bigverne
Joined: 12 May 2004
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| Posted: Wed May 17, 2006 11:12 pm Post subject: |
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Three words for you:
Abortion Clinics. |
How many acts of violence/murder have been committed by abortion extremists in the name of Christianity over the past 20 years, and are such actions justified by any Christian clerics?
How many acts of violence have been committed by extremists acting in the name of Islam this year alone, and are such actions often justified by Muslim clerics?
If you can answer either of those questions honestly, you would see how ridiculous your comparison is. But I am sure you will stick to your 'all religions are the same' mantra. It must be quite uncomfortable wearing that mental straightjacket.
Anyway, I am expecting to be joined by a few of my fellow Christian 'fundies' outside the US embassy this weekend. I'm still working on my 'Behead those who insult Catholicism' banner. Should be fun. |
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Kyrei
Joined: 22 Jan 2003
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| HollywoodReporter.com wrote: |
| CANNES -- For those who hate Dan Brown's best-selling symbology thriller "The Da Vinci Code," the eagerly awaited and much-hyped movie version beautifully exposes all its flaws and nightmares of logic. For those who love the book's page-turning intensity, the movie version heightens Brown's mischievous interweaving of genre action, historical facts and utter fictions. In other words, for those who bear witness to the film "The Da Vinci Code," what you see depends on what you believe. Kinda like religion itself. |
This is great example of writing a lot and saying nothing. An interesting and very on-the-fence review. Others are much, much harsher though. Like this one
This is my favourite of all though: a Windows Media clip of Ian McKellan in an interview... The bible should have a disclaimer
**edited to add the movie clip ** |
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flotsam
Joined: 28 Mar 2006
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| Posted: Thu May 18, 2006 12:30 am Post subject: |
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Christian clerics?
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BG, I had no idea!!
Are you DM or do you play? I'll bet all your chracters are Neutral Evil, am I right?
Numbers do not a moral argument make.
Not all immorality in the name of religion relies on religious authority for its inspiration, impetus or justification.
Keep looking for that key to your rubber room, brah.
Hint: It's under the pillow pressing down on your schnoz. |
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mishlert
Joined: 13 Mar 2003
Location: On the 3rd rock from the sun
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| Posted: Thu May 18, 2006 12:33 am Post subject: |
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Found this at IMDB:
User Comments:
2 out of 10 people found the following comment useful:-
I've have it on good authority that it's very bad, 17 May 2006
1/10
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The sermon this Sunday condemned this movie, though Father Lopes did not mention it by name.
I have read several magazine articles that agree with our Pastor.
Although we no longer have Legion of Decency ratings for films, the lack of same does not excuse parishioners from upholding standards of decency.
I would encourage all, especially the young, to find better things to do with their God-given spending money.
Take a walk. Have a nice restaurant meal. Rent a chaste DVD.
Unless you are willing to spend the rest of your lives in a very warm place that smells of sulfur and brimstone, I would suggest you find better places to go and things to do.
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bigverne
Joined: 12 May 2004
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| Posted: Thu May 18, 2006 1:09 am Post subject: |
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| Numbers do not a moral argument make. |
I was alluding to an observable fact. Muslims are far more like to engage in mass rioting, violence and murder than Christians to perceived slights to their religion.
Can you produce evidence to the contrary, I will you respond with another silly retort? |
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flotsam
Joined: 28 Mar 2006
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| Posted: Thu May 18, 2006 2:48 am Post subject: |
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| Numbers do not a moral argument make. |
I was alluding to an observable fact. Muslims are far more like to engage in mass rioting, violence and murder than Christians to perceived slights to their religion.
Can you produce evidence to the contrary, I will you respond with another silly retort? |
Watcha tryin' to say there, dragonslayer?
And yes, I know numbers are observable. What constitutes a "fact" is less in your grasp.
1. Is religion the only or key variable in the rise of the riots, violence and murder?
2. Are you sure that the Muslim predisposition is the cause, and Christians, if in the same boat, would act differently?
3. Can you provide clear, historical evidence--across the histories of the two religions that establishes your claims?
4. Do you understand the questions as read to you?
Turkaliscious, as usual, you just don't have a sophisticated understanding of the issues you bitch about. (I suggest you stick to footy and flag waving.) And your arguments assume that everyone arguing against you is of the same ilk, is dazzled by bombast and accepts your premises as having even minimal substance.
Which they don't.
Back to the drawing board, crusader. |
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