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jacl
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2. I never said that. What I said was is the OP required to actually teach on this field trip? If you don't have the materials that one USUALLY teaches with, I feel that an argument could be made that the OP is not teaching but entertaining.
3. If he is doing it during contracted work hours then he is obviously working. But it is not ILLEGAL work which was the point I was trying to make.
When I said it is not seen as teaching, I meant that I doubt either the employer or Immigration would see it that way. |
 Sorry but I just couldnt resist 
2. So if you had a bag with stripper equipment in it and were wearing pasties you could argue that you werent working or giving privates just entertaining 
Of course employers dont view it as working "yes you come in for 8 hours on Saturday to go on field trip! No extra pay! You should be overjoyed that we include you! You foriegn devil you! |
I just have a hard time believing that there are hagwons out there that make you go on field trips. Field trips.  Gooooooooooooooooood times! "Ok, boss. I'll meet you there." |
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poet13
Joined: 22 Jan 2006
Location: Just over there....throwing lemons.
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| Posted: Thu May 18, 2006 5:56 pm Post subject: |
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ah, to clarify. I took my boys across to the playground for their class period. We played pickup baseball, using baseball terminology.
I think this thread has gone beyond silly. |
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jacl
Joined: 31 Oct 2005
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| Posted: Thu May 18, 2006 6:04 pm Post subject: |
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ah, to clarify. I took my boys across to the playground for their class period. We played pickup baseball, using baseball terminology.
I think this thread has gone beyond silly. |
Did immigration come by and arrest you? |
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poet13
Joined: 22 Jan 2006
Location: Just over there....throwing lemons.
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| Posted: Thu May 18, 2006 6:09 pm Post subject: |
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| No, but they should, cause I am a bad man flaunting labor law right out in public like that..... |
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John Henry
Joined: 24 Sep 2004
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| Posted: Thu May 18, 2006 6:50 pm Post subject: |
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Dear OP,
Contracts don't mean shit in Korea. Have fun in Hakwon hell.
Sincerely,
John
(Edit) PS, the only thing that is really illegeal here is drug use. |
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Yu_Bum_suk
Joined: 25 Dec 2004
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| Posted: Thu May 18, 2006 7:28 pm Post subject: |
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Actually I think this thread touches an issue that really needs clarification. I've visited a few of my friends' hogwans and wondered, what if immigration dropped in while I was here? At one they were in the process of replacing a teacher and the vice-director thought I was the new teacher when he first saw me sitting there talking to my friend as she was showing me what books she uses. What about volunteer work? I was at a church that was looking for foreign Sunday school teachers (great religious marketing scheme, isn't it?) to teach mixed Korean and foreign kids - could that be considered illegal teaching?
As for field trips, if you can't be arsed to go out and do something with your kids once in a while you probably shouldn't be working at your school. I've gone to my students' soccer games, dance festivals, and to the amusement park with them and besides being a good way to break down barriers of shyness and practice a bit of English (and Korean for me) I can genuinely say I enjoyed it. |
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JongnoGuru
Joined: 25 May 2004
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| Posted: Thu May 18, 2006 7:41 pm Post subject: |
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| I've gone to my students' soccer games, dance festivals, and to the amusement park with them and besides being a good way to break down barriers of shyness and practice a bit of English (and Korean for me) I can genuinely say I enjoyed it. |
Is this a provincial thing? I admit I travel a fairly narrow and well-established circuit in my workaday life, and when I go outside that circuit it's usually at night. But I've not once seen a pack of Korean kids being escorted around Seoul by a weygook-type person. Korean kids with a Korean teacher, all the time. I figure I'm bound to run across one of you Davers sooner or later, but... |
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TheUrbanMyth
Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired
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| Posted: Thu May 18, 2006 7:44 pm Post subject: |
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| I've gone to my students' soccer games, dance festivals, and to the amusement park with them and besides being a good way to break down barriers of shyness and practice a bit of English (and Korean for me) I can genuinely say I enjoyed it. |
Is this a provincial thing? I admit I travel a fairly narrow and well-established circuit in my workaday life, and when I go outside that circuit it's usually at night. But I've not once seen a pack of Korean kids being escorted around Seoul by a weygook-type person. Korean kids with a Korean teacher, all the time. I figure I'm bound to run across one of you Davers sooner or later, but... |
Well they usually travel to where ever they are going to by bus. If you don't happen to be at that particular site, it's not likely you are going to see them. And Seoul IS a big city... |
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Yu_Bum_suk
Joined: 25 Dec 2004
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| Posted: Thu May 18, 2006 8:07 pm Post subject: |
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| I've gone to my students' soccer games, dance festivals, and to the amusement park with them and besides being a good way to break down barriers of shyness and practice a bit of English (and Korean for me) I can genuinely say I enjoyed it. |
Is this a provincial thing? I admit I travel a fairly narrow and well-established circuit in my workaday life, and when I go outside that circuit it's usually at night. But I've not once seen a pack of Korean kids being escorted around Seoul by a weygook-type person. Korean kids with a Korean teacher, all the time. I figure I'm bound to run across one of you Davers sooner or later, but... |
I'm talking more about activities the whole school or a whole grade is doing, or events someone else has planned that I've attended (like the most pathetic church Christmas pagent I've ever seen in my life), though I have taken a small group of my students out for pizza and things like that. |
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Pyongshin Sangja
Joined: 20 Apr 2003
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| Posted: Thu May 18, 2006 11:50 pm Post subject: |
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Yes, but my ARC doesn't say which room I'm supposed to be in!
We're all illegal! La migre! La migre! |
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Homer
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| Posted: Fri May 19, 2006 2:10 am Post subject: |
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| As for field trips, if you can't be arsed to go out and do something with your kids once in a while you probably shouldn't be working at your school. I've gone to my students' soccer games, dance festivals, and to the amusement park with them and besides being a good way to break down barriers of shyness and practice a bit of English (and Korean for me) I can genuinely say I enjoyed it. |
I have to agree with Yum on this one. |
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