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Hanyang · Joined: 05 Mar 2006 Location: Toronto, Canada

Each of these are asked by of the proposer and seconder.

1. How long have you known the Candidate?
2. Has he ever, to your knowledge, been convicted of a crime or offence?
3. Do you meet him often?
4. Where do you meet him?

(a) In your home? (b) In his home?
(c) At his work? (d) Socially?

5. Would you welcome him into your home?
6. Do you vouch for him in every respect as a suitable and desirable person for admission to the Craft?
7. a Would his home or business circumstances make it difficult for him to attend regularly at Lodge meetings?
7. b. Do you accept the responsibility of encouraging him to make his membership effective?
8. Have you informed him that membership of the Craft means personal effort on his part in the service of the Lodge and of the community?
9. Have you informed him of his financial obligations to the Craft and its Benevolent Funds?
10. What reason have you for thinking Freemasonry will interest him?

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Seconder��...

Hanyang · Joined: 05 Mar 2006 Location: Toronto, Canada

11. Has he resided, carried on business or been employed within the neighborhood of the Province or District in which the Lodge is situated throughout the past three years?
12. Is he likely to be permanently resident in the district??

DECLARATION
(To be subscribed by two Qualified Members of the Lodge)

We, the undersigned Qualified Member of the Lodge, having read the foregoing text, recommend the applicant as a fit and proper candidate for initiation into Freemasonry.

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Address��

Signature��Seconder

Address��

NOTE: The candidate and his Proposer and Seconder will be interviewed by the Enquiry Committee on a date to be duly intimated to them.

Hanyang · Joined: 05 Mar 2006 Location: Toronto, Canada

Interview Questions
Instructions: Remember that you are acting as the second screen for the process and that we as Freemasons are exclusive in the sense that we welcome only those of the highest caliber amongst our number. Be tolerant, aware and remember that this man will be your Brother.
1. Does he believe in The Supreme Being (God)?

2. Is he an active church member?

3. To what other Lodges, societies or clubs does he belong?

4. Can he afford the expenses of the fraternity?

5. Has he made prudent provisions for his dependents in case of his death or disability?

6. Does he gamble or use intoxicants?

7. Has he been persistent in his business pursuits or does he change occupations frequently?

8. Find out his profession or occupation.

9. What does he know about the Craft? Have him explain his preconceived ideas of the fraternity and why exactly he wants to join.

10. How long has he lived in the jurisdiction and how long is he planning on staying?

11. Ask him about his family and way of life (if he is married or has a serious relationship ask to speak to his partner to make sure they understand the time demands, cost, etc and are supportive. Remind them that family, work, etc comes first and that a commitment to the fraternity means a deep obligation to excellence in each of these roles).

12. Ask him about his availability for Lodge meetings and whether he is willing to commit his time to other activities such as practices and social activities.

13. Explain that he will have to take an obligation but that it will not conflict with his faith, family, country or profession.

14. His faith (will joining be in conflict. Remember we welcome all who believe in God and leave that definition up to the candidate).

15. Has anyone try to solicit him or pushed him to join (free will and accord)?

16. Is he joining for personal gain?

17. Has he ever been convicted of a crime?

18. Has he ever applied to join a Lodge before? If rejected why?

SuperFly · Joined: 09 Jul 2003 Location: In the doghouse

My daddy told me they gonna take a good man n make him better.

skinhead · Joined: 11 Jun 2004

igotthisguitar · Posted: Sun May 21, 2006 3:51 am Post subject: Re: WHAT FREEMASONRY IS NOT

igotthisguitar · Posted: Sun Jun 18, 2006 3:16 am Post subject:

The very word 'secrecy' is repugnant in a free and open society; and we are as a people
inherently and historically opposed to secret societies, to secret oaths, and to secret proceedings.

John F. Kennedy

hermes.trismegistus · Joined: 08 Sep 2005

Masons make me laugh.

However, they do get the hook-up.

Unfortunately, many Masons haven't been informed of some of the greater mysteries, so the logic becomes circular and unproveable to converts. Either which way, many of the symbolisms can be penetrated by the dedicated student.

Rosicrucians can be fun, but you so rarely meet them nowadays. Quite the museum they have set up over in SoCal though... lots of nifty supplies for the magus.

Occult orders attract sycophants like flies to shit. The Path is strewn with the corpses of fools. This contributes to many occultist's isolation, but then the Path has always been the provenance of the Hermit... and for good reason.

Namaste.

Keepongoing · Joined: 13 Feb 2003 Location: Korea

Both my grandfather and my uncle were Masons and my Grandfather was a Scottish Rite Shriner. I was in the DeMolay which is for male youths.

As soon as I turned 21 I went up to my 3rd Degree, Master Mason. Once I became a Master Mason I discontinued, I was only trying to prove to my doubting grandfather that I could do it. Sounds silly, but my grandfather was always someone whose approval I strongly desired.

I have not read the books listed here and so have no comment on them. I do know that my sister had misformed bones in her legs and was able to go into the Shriners Hosptial for Crippled Children and received all the medical care free and they corrected what could have been a lifetime malady. They also have hospitals for Burned Children.

Perhaps I am very wrong, but it seems that ening a Mason does not have the social weight it once enjoyed.

igotthisguitar · Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2006 3:31 am Post subject: Re: i was

igotthisguitar · Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 3:44 am Post subject:

A must watch for any responsible citizen.

Dan Brown's upcoming novel is purported to be addressing a number of these issues Twisted Evil

Secret Mysteries of America's Beginnings Vols. 1+2

Vol. 1: Colonial Rosicrucian Baconians at the helm.
Vol. 2: Riddles in Stone - Occult D.C. Architecture

http://www.veoh.com/series/SMoAB

Cerebroden · Joined: 27 Dec 2006

this thread is comedic

JMO · Joined: 18 Jul 2006 Location: Daegu

igotthisguitar · Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 9:16 pm Post subject:

"Freemasons On Trial" Set To Air

2007 03 24
From: hindu.com
http://www.hindu.com/2007/03/22/stories/2007032211290200.htm

Ed comment: I recently saw this "documentary" and I must say that it�s a sad piece! Nothing really interesting, there�s no real content! Same stuff is repeated throughout the documentary! There is some hilarious stuff in there about Licio Gelli and the �denunciation� of P2 as not being a really freemasonic order � anymore. I also learned that a true Freemason can't be behind the murder of Roberto Calvi because there is a moral code within Freemasonry that prevents a Mason from murdering another man.

Also don�t miss the dude with the pirate eye patch! Quite funny!

It�s basically a whitewash of the Freemasons. It gives the impression that they actually are under scrutiny, so I guess this is an attempt at a countermeasure? Well, if this is about Freemasons �On Trial�� then it sure is a Masonic Court!

I won't even bother to comment that much more about it. Nonetheless, if you are curious to see what kind of appearance and image that they seek to present of themselves, do watch it! I find the "story line" in it so ridiculous, there are some much more interesting and sinister and also of course not so sinister aspects and information that you can address in regards to Freemasonry. Weak! Rolling Eyes

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kangaroo_court

igotthisguitar · Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 7:53 am Post subject:

Court: Freemasonry a Religion ... (Sort of)
Contributed by Cary McMullen - Posted: October 11, 2007 1:56:30 PM

A court in Los Angeles has ruled that Freemasonry is a form of "religious exercise," comparable to Christianity and Islam. "We see no principled way to distinguish the earnest pursuit of these (Masonic) principles ... from more widely acknowledged modes of religious exercise," said the ruling. The case involved the Los Angeles Scottish Rite Cathedral and the Scottish Rite Cathedral Association of Los Angeles. The groups had leased out the cathedral for events such as dances, in apparent violation of zoning rules that restrict it to Masonic events only. The Masons had sought relief under the Religious Land Use and Institutionalized Persons (RLUIPA) act. But even though the court ruled the Masons are a religious group, it said RLUIPA didn't apply to them, so it was a Pyrrhic victory.

Both my grandfathers were Masons. When I was a kid, one of them showed me his guidebook, which technically he wasn't supposed to do because Masons are sworn to secrecy about their rituals. No harm done -- I didn't understand any of it, in part because it was full of strange symbols. Basically, I always figured Freemasonry was a practice that sort of supplemented Christian belief.

I just wonder if the secrets of the Masons were revealed in court?

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