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[mithridates]

Interesting overview from the Washington Post:

[bigverne]

This from America's friend and ally? I have a question for the American posters here.

Why, some 5 years after 9-11, do you allow the Saudis to spend billions, funding mosques and 'cultural centres' that promote this hateful ideology, in your own country?

[On the other hand]

[bigverne]

[bigverne]

I was going to post this as a separate topic, but it seems quite relevant to this one.

As America spends billions on fruitless attempts at building democracies in the Muslim world, the Saudis spend billions spreading Islamic propaganda in the US.

http://www.investors.com/editorial/IBDArticles.asp?artsec=20&artnum=3&issue=20060519

Teaching Johnny About Islam

In our brave new schools, Johnny can't say the pledge, but he can recite the Quran. Yup, the same court that found the phrase "under God" unconstitutional now endorses Islamic catechism in public school.

In a recent federal decision that got surprisingly little press, even from conservative talk radio, California's 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals ruled it's OK to put public-school kids through Muslim role-playing exercises, including:

Reciting aloud Muslim prayers that begin with "In the name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful . . . ."

Memorizing the Muslim profession of faith: "Allah is the only true God and Muhammad is his messenger."

Chanting "Praise be to Allah" in response to teacher prompts.

Professing as "true" the Muslim belief that "The Holy Quran is God's word."

Giving up candy and TV to demonstrate Ramadan, the Muslim holy month of fasting.

Designing prayer rugs, taking an Arabic name and essentially "becoming a Muslim" for two full weeks.

Parents of seventh-graders, who after 9-11 were taught the pro-Islamic lessons as part of California's world history curriculum, sued under the First Amendment ban on religious establishment. They argued, reasonably, that the government was promoting Islam.

But a federal judge appointed by President Clinton told them in so many words to get over it, that the state was merely teaching kids about another "culture."

So the parents appealed. Unfortunately, the most left-wing court in the land got their case. The 9th Circuit, which previously ruled in favor of an atheist who filed suit against the words "under God" in the Pledge of Allegiance, upheld the lower court ruling.

The decision is a major victory for the multiculturalists and Islamic apologists in California and across the country who've never met a culture or religion they didn't like � with the exception of Western civilization and Christianity. They are legally in the clear to indoctrinate kids into the "peaceful" and "tolerant" religion of Islam, while continuing to denigrate Judeo-Christian values.

In the California course on world religions, Christianity is not presented equally. It's covered in just two days and doesn't involve kids in any role-playing activities. But kids do get a good dose of skepticism about the Christian faith, including a biting history of its persecution of other peoples. In contrast, Islam gets a pass from critical review. Even jihad is presented as an "internal personal struggle to do one's best to resist temptation," and not holy war.

The ed consultant's name is Susan L. Douglass. No, she's not a Christian scholar. She's a devout Muslim activist on the Saudi government payroll, according to an investigation by Paul Sperry, author of "Infiltration: How Muslim Spies and Subversives Have Penetrated Washington." He found that for years Douglass taught social studies at the Islamic Saudi Academy just outside Washington, D.C. Her husband still teaches there.

So what? By infiltrating our public school system, the Saudis hope to make Islam more widely accepted while converting impressionable American youth to their radical cause. Recall that John Walker Lindh, the "American Taliban," was a product of the California school system. What's next, field trips to Mecca?

This case is critical not just to our culture but our national security. It should be brought before the Supreme Court, which has outlawed prayer in school. Let's see what it says about practicing Islam in class. It will be a good test for the bench's two new conservative justices.

[bucheon bum]

Saudi is the biggest "aid" giver in the world, if you go by % of a country's GDP. Alas, that aid is usually in the form of mosque building and other Islamic-related assistance.

[Bulsajo]

Just got this from the library today:



I don't expect it will be as titillating a read as this was:

[Ya-ta Boy]

[mindmetoo]

I saw something about this on CNN. The article didn't show was the passages used to say. Something along the lines of "we must kill the infidel!" Now it just says "hate him with all your heart but really, really try not to t kill him." That's progress.

[mindmetoo]

[bigverne]

[Nowhere Man]

That California ruling happened last November.

Curiously, it's suddenly surfaced in May.

Not sure why.

But it is something I'd like to hear more about.

[bigverne]

[Nowhere Man]

No.

It doesn't sound right to me.

Sounds quite wrong.

I'd like to hear more because the reporting on it is quite limited. Seems like it should be pretty mainstream.

As for Saudi textbooks, I think they represent one of the most extremist Muslim points of view. I wouldn't want to work there.

I would, however, work in the UAE.

What should we do about these textbooks?

Doesn't sound good.

Let's boycott the Saudis.

Hmm, how do we do that?

How painful would it be?

I'm all for it.

Will it happen?

Nope.

We are more capitalist than we are democratic.

[bigverne]