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xCustomx

Joined: 06 Jan 2006
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Posted: Wed May 24, 2006 6:30 pm Post subject: any info about wall street institute? |
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as i've previously mentioned, i've been offered a public school job in seoul with SMOE. i have to decide by tomorrow if i will accept the position. i have been informed that it's possible to get an e2 visa from wall street institute, and then they will add on my public school job with immigration. i can't find any information on this board about wall street institute though. they have locations throughout seoul, and are geared towards adults. does anyone have any info about this place? thanks |
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Aussiekimchi
Joined: 21 Apr 2006 Location: SYDNEY
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Posted: Wed May 24, 2006 6:34 pm Post subject: |
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There is one in Gangnam with possibly the best location in Korea if you like a beer and nice scenery.
Right in the heart of the bar scene in Gangnam near Gangnam Station. If the accomodation is close, you would be living for free in an area where housing is extremely expensive.
I was sitting on a patio bar last week and mentioned to a friend" I would love to work at that school simply for it's location."
As for the school and the job, don't know. |
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xCustomx

Joined: 06 Jan 2006
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Posted: Wed May 24, 2006 7:00 pm Post subject: |
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It would be a pretty sweet job(s) to have, since i'd work from 8:30-4:30 for the public school, and 6-9 (about) at wall street. I was told that many of the teachers who work a similar type of schedule pull in over 3+ million a month. Until I get an F2 visa next year, this seems like a good way to legally save a lot of money, even though I'll be working a lot of hours. |
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Son Deureo!
Joined: 30 Apr 2003
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Posted: Wed May 24, 2006 7:35 pm Post subject: |
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That also sounds like a pretty sweet way to burn out. |
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poof
Joined: 23 May 2005
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Posted: Wed May 24, 2006 8:03 pm Post subject: |
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I've never seen Wall Street in Korea, but I was living next to a Wall Street franchise in another Asian country. They are primarily a conversation class for adults. No idea if they have a set syllabus. However, that branch of Wall Street was advertising for new teachers in the national paper about once a fortnight - something was seriously wrong for such an apparently high staff turnover. I would personally ask to speak to a current teacher if I was ever considering a job there. |
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plato's republic
Joined: 07 Dec 2004 Location: Ancient Greece
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Posted: Thu May 25, 2006 5:15 am Post subject: |
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I'm pretty sure I saw one in Jongno a few months back. Can anyone verify? I also saw a job at a Wall Street branch up on WorknPlay a few months back too but don't remember what it said about the company. Surely another crappy adult hagwon with s.hit hours, w.ank pay and retarted management. |
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xCustomx

Joined: 06 Jan 2006
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Posted: Thu May 25, 2006 6:41 am Post subject: |
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I posted this up on another thread, but here it is again, taken from WorknPlay...salary offered is 1.8 million for 3/4 hours a day:
"A chance to make over 3,200,000won teaching 6 hours a day.
Work 3~4hours at Wall Street and add a public school part time job legally.
Wall Street Institute is currently seeking qualified native English teachers to assist students in learning English. Teaching positions are available for motivated teachers to teach between 15 and 20 hours a week. Included in this package is severence pay, retirement pay which is matched by Wall Street Institute, E-2 working visa, negotiable vacation, prepared materials, round trip E-2 fare, fair and understanding bosses, the best facilities in Korea, the most organized school in the world, and motivated adult students.
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TECO

Joined: 20 Jan 2003
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Posted: Fri May 26, 2006 12:32 am Post subject: |
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I found this about Wall Street Institute of English on the internet:
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All in all, I've received only negative reports about Wall Street. Apparantly, there are several British teacher supervisors working there who have poor leadership qualities and no formal training in Education or TEFL methodology.
There is also apparantly a lot of in-house fighting among teachers and the British supervisors who are, I've been told, 'lazy' and try to pass their lessons off onto junior teachers so that they can do admin work.
The wages are low. I was told that they average out to about NT$475 per hour after working approximately 27 to 30 hours per week. Split shifts are the norm, where teachers are required to start in the morning until 12:00pm and then return at 4 or 5pm and then teach until 9:00pm. Also, I was told that Wall Street Institute contracts teachers to a 6 day work week.
The facilities look clean and new and there is normally a teachers' room at all branch locations to sit down in between classes and eat lunch or prepare for lessons.
Wall Street also uses its own in-house materials and I am told once you learn these materials it cuts down on class preparation time dramatically. In fact, one Wall Street Institute teacher told me that he had become incredibly bored with the material after a year of working there and that the job was not very challenging or interesting.
As well, like many schools in Taiwan, Wall Street does not provide housing for English teachers. I have also been told that Wall Street does not hire teachers from overseas and that they require applicants to come in and sit an interview in person. This may have changed since I received most of the above information on Wall Street in 2003 and 2004.
Final word on Wall Street Institute is - high turn over rate, grumpy and autocratic British head teachers, boring materials, low hourly wages, split-shifts and 6 day work week.
The presentation at Wall Street is very slick. Many computers and classrooms with glass walls and glass marker boards. The compay is actually a Spanish company and has branches in Korea, Taiwan, China and Thailand. I have also heard reports from other teachers that they may have already expanded into Japan as well. |
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keithinkorea

Joined: 17 Mar 2004
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Posted: Fri May 26, 2006 7:31 pm Post subject: |
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I have a couple of friends who seem quite happy working for them. The above post going on about 'British' supervisors as if calling someone British is some kind of insult.
My theory is that the above was written by a bitter seppo.
I considered working there part time, but their hourly rate seems a little low. Apparently it is an OK place to work but the pay is not that high, the students are motivated and eager.
All in all it seems OK apart from the money being a little on the low side. |
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animalbirdfish
Joined: 04 Feb 2004
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Posted: Fri May 26, 2006 8:07 pm Post subject: |
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I seem to recall a friend telling me that they'd offered him a job teaching adults which paid about 20,000/hour. Their offer sounded similar to the OP's proposed situation, but I may be mistaken on the actual institute.
So, what are they offering per hour?
If indeed they are paying 20,000/hour then you're getting scammed. Hourly payment, for an unexperienced instructor working a block schedule really shouldn't be less than 30,000/hour. Unfortunately, too many westerners come here thinking they immediately deserve 40,000-50,000/hour for the pleasure of their presence. So don't be expecting those rates, but don't undersell yourself either. |
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xCustomx

Joined: 06 Jan 2006
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Posted: Fri May 26, 2006 9:19 pm Post subject: |
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well, by the time i would start with them in the fall, i would have over 1.5 years experience teaching, so 20k/hr is low. i was offered a p/t job from YBM for 17k/hr, which just made me laugh.
i think i'll be passing on this place, thanks for all the info guys |
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