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Bulsajo



Joined: 16 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Wed May 24, 2006 8:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry, you caught me in a revision, see more above.
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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Thu May 25, 2006 3:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Joey Kay wrote:
Thanks for the feedback! I do have a BA and BEd, and Professional A Teacher Certification in Saskatchewan, and have taught full-time for three years.

I also have been told that I could earn more working for the SMOE, but from what I understand, it's tougher and not as much social interaction with other foreign teachers.

This is tough stuff to wade through at first - thanks again for the advice!

Cheers!


You are qualified for level 1 (highest level) in any of the public school programs. 2.3 mil + benefits or at an international school.

Why settle for a crap hakwon @ 15% less pay, more class hours and all the usual headaches?
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Lemonade



Joined: 04 Jan 2006
Location: South Korea

PostPosted: Thu May 25, 2006 6:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bulsajo wrote:
Joey Kay wrote:

Also, I've checked out some pics of the apartment that they're offering me - let's just say they should call it the Roach Motor Inn.

Didn't look bad to me from the pics you posted.. you've never been to Korea before, is that correct?
What I saw wasn't great, but I've seen (and lived in) far worse.
But it's true, you could do much better in terms of both salary and apts- I don't think BCM makes anyone's short list of the best places in Korea to work.


I agree and I would like to add that you were fortunate to get the pictures because when I was looking for work in Korea I had a very hard time getting pictures of apartments. Also, if you are use to working in a structured environment where learning and education are taken seriously, then you might find Korea to be a rude awakening as a professional certified teacher. A great deal of hagwons are babysitting environments to keep the kids all happy happy happy and the parents even MORE happy. It's a stark contrast to what a typical teacher would experience in a "normal" school. I say this with the deepest respect for professional certified teachers such as yourself. You do it for the love of teaching right? You might want to consider a public school here at the very least or Taiwan where there is considerably more support, training, professionalism and structure. It's no big secret that Korea's education system is in dire need of reform.
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stakay



Joined: 16 Jul 2005
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PostPosted: Thu May 25, 2006 8:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have often read comments here regarding people with teaching degrees and how awful a hogwan must be after teaching in a 'real' school. I must say though, I was a 'real' teacher back home in Australia and have had a FAR better experience being a lowly hogwan teacher in Korea. My job back home was so stressful and I just can't emphasise that enough. To the OP - you just need to decide what kind of experience you're after. If you've been a teacher for 3 years in Canada then you're going to know what you want. An international school job will probably be a full on job. Any job in Korea (other than an international school gig) will be completely different to what you're used to. If you want adventure, then go for Korea. And that's just my two cents.
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Qinella



Joined: 25 Feb 2005
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PostPosted: Thu May 25, 2006 10:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

To the OP, I hope you notice how many people are saying you can do better. Because you definitely can. 2.07 million isn't that good, and neither is the apartment. The only thing I think is sweet is the location. Kangnam is a really nice area to be in. That's hopefully going to be my next move.

But, as others said, look for an international school. Or maybe a university. That's where you're most likely going to find better pay, a more respectable position, less headaches, and a better working environment.

And of course, don't forget to interview the staff you'll be replacing before accepting any positions. You need to ask extensive questions.

Cheers.

Q.
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Joey Kay



Joined: 24 May 2006

PostPosted: Thu May 25, 2006 5:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some cadillac advice - thanks folks! I declined this offer, and will be holding tight on any more applications for a few weeks until I've also went through some scheduled interviews for various jobs in Canada and the UK in the next few weeks.

On a related note, is it true that the SMOE does the majority of their fall hiring in July and August?
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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
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PostPosted: Thu May 25, 2006 8:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Joey Kay wrote:
Some cadillac advice - thanks folks! I declined this offer, and will be holding tight on any more applications for a few weeks until I've also went through some scheduled interviews for various jobs in Canada and the UK in the next few weeks.

On a related note, is it true that the SMOE does the majority of their fall hiring in July and August?


ALL the public school systems do the BULK of their hiring in July/Aug for the fall (second) term and Jan/Feb for the new school year that starts in March.
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