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ajgeddes
Joined: 28 Apr 2004
Location: Yongsan
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| Zolt wrote: |
| Oh man, I just caught this on the 2nd page of this thread. Congratulations, you really have a genius for trolling. Now let's just wait for a few korean college students to spot this gem, repost it on some of their boards, and start a riot. I'm afraid you just marked the death of this board. |
You do have like 7 days invested into this board since you signed up.  I hope it doesn't affect your life too much.
Anyways, there is a lot worse on this board than that. |
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doggyji
Joined: 21 Feb 2006
Location: Toronto - Hamilton - Vineland - St. Catherines
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| Posted: Thu May 25, 2006 6:05 pm Post subject: |
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| The Japanese who are ethnically similar to the Koreans are the same way: not many fatties there. |
Oh man, I just caught this on the 2nd page of this thread. Congratulations, you really have a genius for trolling. Now let's just wait for a few korean college students to spot this gem, repost it on some of their boards, and start a riot. I'm afraid you just marked the death of this board. |
Is this supposed to be funny? What are you trying to say?  If you go too far, it's never funny. |
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Snowmeow
Joined: 03 Oct 2005
Location: pc room
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| Posted: Thu May 25, 2006 6:51 pm Post subject: |
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LOL I can lift quite a bit (well, not lift, per say, but I can hold my own with back rows and leg presses, especially), and I have gotten looks of disgust from some guys. Even my husband is unnerved by it. I'd bet Korean women could lift a lot more, but perhaps they're worried they'd seem less feminine if they did. I don't know- that's just my take on it. It's just that the max weight I've seen women curl is 20 lbs, and they tend to stay in really low ranges. Although I must add that one of the female squash coaches at my gym has big, well-defined thigh muscles. I've seen her doing squats, so I figure that's a factor. |
Actually the current world champion in the women's unlimited bodyweight category in weightlifting (and she placed 2nd at the 2004 Olympics) is a Korean. I have seen her on tv sometimes. Her name is Jang Mi-ran. I find it unusual that she could be so successful in a country where women must be slim. |
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ella
Joined: 17 Apr 2006
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| one of my coworkers told me it's considered rude not to wear make-up in Korea, especially if your skin is not perfect |
Whoa. Can someone explain this, please? |
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ajgeddes
Joined: 28 Apr 2004
Location: Yongsan
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| Posted: Thu May 25, 2006 8:56 pm Post subject: |
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| *If* this is true, it only applies to Koreans. Don't worry about it. |
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crystal
Joined: 04 May 2006
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| Posted: Fri May 26, 2006 1:57 am Post subject: |
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| one of my coworkers told me it's considered rude not to wear make-up in Korea, especially if your skin is not perfect |
Whoa. Can someone explain this, please? |
the woman who said this to me is noted in my hogwan for her manner of expression, she will say just about anything without thinking about it first and she has her own unique way of thinking, this was one of her most recent gems, to be honest I only half listen to her these days and don't pay all that much attention, wouldn't worry about it |
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SirFink
Joined: 05 Mar 2006
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| Posted: Fri May 26, 2006 3:36 am Post subject: Re: Korean Women? |
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| For me a good looking women of average height is usually like 160 pounds or more. |
Most of the men here don't weigh 160. There's always plumper porn on the Net.  |
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peppermint
Joined: 13 May 2003
Location: traversing the minefields of caddishness.
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| Posted: Fri May 26, 2006 4:15 am Post subject: |
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| I've heard the comments about it being rude not to wear makeup too, from a former employer. |
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doggyji
Joined: 21 Feb 2006
Location: Toronto - Hamilton - Vineland - St. Catherines
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| Posted: Fri May 26, 2006 8:35 am Post subject: |
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| ella wrote: |
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| one of my coworkers told me it's considered rude not to wear make-up in Korea, especially if your skin is not perfect |
Whoa. Can someone explain this, please? |
I guess it's another example of careless word selection. How can it possibly be even 'rude'.... |
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krisinkorea
Joined: 16 Mar 2006
Location: Not too far from Seoul
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| Posted: Fri May 26, 2006 9:31 am Post subject: |
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C'mon, seriously, we get free lunch at our school cooked by the Korean lady. If you had to eat that everyday, skinny fish dried up things, tofu, seaweed mixed in various ways....Would you want to eat lunch?? No wonder they are not just skinny but, "super ultra skinny". Some of it is good, but, the normal Korean diet is designed to make a person lose weight. Even my kids don't want to eat their lunch and some of them are only 5.
I have lost weight in Korea, I cook normal food from back home, and I wasn't that big to begin with. C'mon good food is good food. When you don't have much to choose from....
And , anyone watch the English channels on TV? Reminds me that the girls back home are slender but they have curves. You can be slender and look healthy. They have butts and chests but they still look good.
I have chubby kids in my class and I can't believe how much they eat. They eat constantly or try to....ice cream, chips, soda. It's not necessarily only the North American way to overeat, it has to be psychological and parental. If someone tried to be fat in Korea they could find various ways of doing it.
Actually, I've seen it, it can be done. Bread with icing. What nut job thought that was a good idea?? |
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ella
Joined: 17 Apr 2006
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| Posted: Fri May 26, 2006 5:17 pm Post subject: |
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| I figured someone was going to tell me at some point to "wear makeup," since I do wear makeup but it's very natural-looking. I never guessed someone might tell me my makeup is "rude." That'll be interesting if it happens (I'll post about it, I promise). |
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Zulu
Joined: 28 Apr 2006
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| You can keep your K-gals. |
Why thank you Zulu...my wife will be happy to hear you are letting me "keep her".....  |
Should've known someone would take this the wrong way. I wasn't talking about YOUR wife so relax. I was just saying Korean women don't do it for me. If they do it for you what do I care? Each to their own.
In the meantime Homey, I guess there's something you're not telling your wife as I said "K- galS". Or maybe you're from Utah? |
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Zulu
Joined: 28 Apr 2006
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No offense but I'm not really into Korean women at all. Some are ok looking I guess but most have little body tone, wear piles of makeup, get way too much cosmetic surgery and often have bad skin underneath all that muck. For the first few months here with so few foreign women in my area I actually thought of maybe dating a K-gal but then I found Itaewon had a lot of foreign women, especially on the weekends. Some really good looking ones, too. You can keep your K-gals. |
one of my coworkers told me it's considered rude not to wear make-up in Korea, especially if your skin is not perfect, which is why she and my other coworkers are constantly touching up their make-up between classes. They're being polite, go figure. I think she was suggesting that I shouldwear make-up too, my skin is not perfect but it's not all that bad either, make-up only irritates my skin and causes me to break out and look absolutely terrible so I'm doing them all a favour |
Yeah I don't know if it's that men in the workplace want their wimmin to look all dolled up or just the extreme vanity among so many of the women themselves. A bit of both I guess but I've never seen a bunch so in love with the mirror. And I don't just mean the women either. |
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patchy
Joined: 26 Apr 2005
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| Posted: Sat May 27, 2006 6:20 am Post subject: |
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| ajgeddes wrote: |
| Zolt wrote: |
| Oh man, I just caught this on the 2nd page of this thread. Congratulations, you really have a genius for trolling. Now let's just wait for a few korean college students to spot this gem, repost it on some of their boards, and start a riot. I'm afraid you just marked the death of this board. |
You do have like 7 days invested into this board since you signed up. I hope it doesn't affect your life too much.
Anyways, there is a lot worse on this board than that. |
You think he/she is a newcomer? Does anyone go by the join date anymore? Or are you just egging this person on deliberately?
I'm afraid Zolt has got his races and cultures mixed up: he should be badmouthing the Japanese. It's not the Koreans who say they are a separate race from other Asians, it is the Japanese. "We are special and unique, and we believe this because we get told this all the time by the whites whom we worship."
Fact is Koreans know they colonized Japan in ancient times and the Japanese royal bloodline is mainly Korean (or proto-Korean for accuracy's sake) - comprising of Paekche and Koguryo refugees from Korea. The Japanese won't acknowledge this or only grudgingly (the Emperor's statement that one ancestor was Korean - NOT true, MOST of his ancestors were Korean). The Koreans have asked repeatedly for kings' tombs to be dug up as these will no doubt show that these kings originated from the mainland: Korean artifacts and other evidence of Korean identity preserved in the tombs like time-capsules.
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Scholars now indicate that the mass migrations to pre-medieval japan were from Paekjae (which is in SW Korea and close to japan), not koguryo (which encompasses what's now North Korea into Manchuria). As the article indicated, Korea was an established agricultural society 2500 years ago, and isolated from China, did serve to modernize not only japan, but its other neighbors as well. koguryo for example had extensive contact with the Khitan and other steppes people who would later develop into the manchus, mongols and other waves of conquerors of china. As paekjae did for the japanese, koguryo brought culture and organization to essentially barbarian people, taught them pottery, ironworking etc and essentially established their societies beyond small tribes and hunting/gathering and established the basis for greater development on their own
as the article indicates, both China and Korean texts make reference to pre-medieval "wa." in ancient chinese "wa" is an epithet for "dwarf." however, the japanese in this period traversed the seas in small junks, and their activites were so minor as to be limited to minor piracy and raiding along the eastern coasts of both countries. in fact, during this period, the japanese junks were unable to even establish solid trade routes to either country, which of course logically is the first order of business, if at all possible, for any maritime society.
for these wa, military conquest of any part of korea or china wasn't even a possibility. no serious scholar in the US now believes that that migration between korea and japan could have been an issue of japanese conquest of korea. simply, the overwhelming amount of cultural colonization and racial mixing in japan indicated MASSIVE migrations, over several waves and the the indigenous japanese of the period were simply incapable of anything along these lines, when the most they could do was the occasional pirate raid onto minor coastal villages.
for most serious scholars in the US there's also little question that the koreans undertook a CONQUEST of japan.
aside from the mongol [failed] invasion of japan MUCH later in japans medieval period, simply no nation... neither korea or china... considered anything to be gained from invading the barbarian wa islands to the east.
however, following the fall of paekjae during the 3 kindoms period, there's significant archeological evidence (ranging from everything from particular paekjae pottery which took root in japan starting at that period, to korean burial mounds in kyushu, to metal working etc etc) indicates a massive forced relocation of koreans at the hands of OTHER koreans to japan.
paekjae lost the war and were driven into the sea. but instead of perishing in the wasteland they "went native" with the indigenous population of japan. the fact that korean DNA is much more homogeneous than the japanese of course indicates that as the new civilization spread northward, these new people mixed with both wa and ainu populations to form the basis of medieval japanese culture, society and people
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* the name - Zipangu (Japan) introduced by Polo Marco to Europe
When Polo Marco visited China,
he heared words for calling Japan from Chinese.
that is 'Zipangu' - these days Japan.
name of Japan was (倭-whe and 倭國-whegu) until AD. 702
the name's meaning is 'dirty region-Area'
after Master Country-Bacje was ruined by Silla,
branch islands(Japan) of Bacje must made country,
so, sons of Bacje Emperor and silla's powerful families made the name - 日本 (Nippon)
and changed capital name to "Nara",
Nara is Korean language, the meanning is "country"
but, Korea and China didn't use the name
and, used older name (倭-whe and 倭國-whegu)
because Korea and China didn't recognize Japan to country
Japanese scholars assert " the name-日本 got from china (周) "
日本 be called 'Zipangu' by Chinese's language.
but,
if hearded 'Zipangu' without the Letters-日本 by Chinese Language,
'Zipangu' be hearing meanning of 'outskirt'.
and,
if hearded 'Zipangu' without the Letters-日本 by Korean Language,
'Zipangu' be hearing meanning " local, district " - 地方區.
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However Japanese scholars assert " the name got from china (周) ",
Japanese are saying 日本(Japan) to 'Nippon'.
but, 'Nippon' is not Chinese Language,
Chinese are saying 日本(Japan) to 'Zipangu'
but,
Korean are saying 'il-Bon'.
if excepted 'N' from Nippon,
ippon (Japanese Language for reading 日本)
il-Bon (Korean Language for reading 日本)
ippon's pronunciation is as same as il-Bon.
1. Japanese scholars assert " the name got from china (周) ",
2. there are record "no Letter(character) in Japan" on oldest history book of Japan.
so, Japanese-self didn't make 日本.
* when did Japan get Letter(character) ?
Japan was colony of Silla until OuJin of Bacje conquered Japan.
after OuJin conquered Japan..
in OuJin age, many scholars of bacje went to japan for teaching japanese..
since japan be a island of Bacje,
japanese ignorance was anxiety to Bacje
so, in A.D 404,
by command of Emperor(근초고왕) of bacje (Korea),
Korean azicgi(아직기) went to japan for teaching prince of Oujin and family about civilization.
after japan met civilization from azicgi (Korean),
japan entreated more books and scholars to bacje (Korea)
so, bacje sent Wang-in(왕인) to Japan with letter book(천자문) and other several books in 405.
in japan, wang-in taught (teach) letters to King's son and officials by entreating king of japan(OuJin)
by Wang-in, started recording old documents and history of japan
by azicgi and wang-in, king's son of japan opened first civilized age to japan ==> that is aska age
can find azicgi and wang-in from many japanese old books
azicgi and wang-in are like god to japanese scholars
- summary
1. japan met civilization from azicgi,, by first
2. bacje(Korea) gave letters to Japan by wang-in
* after Oujin,
Wang-In made Nintoku by next King
this Nintoku is disciple of Wang-in and son of Oujin.
Japan met Letters from Azicgi and Wang-in, command of Bacje Emperor. in AD. 400s
but, Japan could't have national name until in AD. 671
because there was native(Master) Country - Bacje in Korea
so, Japan could't use the word - 'Country'
after Bacje conquered Japan,
Bacje sent sons of Bacje Emperor to Japan by Kings
and
Bacje had ruling Japan by sons of Bacje Emperor, directly during several hundred years
even after Bacje was ruined,
Bacje was ruling Japan by sons of Bacje Emperor, continue until this time
in AD. 660, Bacje was ruined by Silla
in AD. 671, il-bon(日本) made by 천지왕(天智王) <== a prince of 36 sons of bacje's Last Emperor-의자
in AD. 702, got Alphabet name 'Zipangu' from China
in AD. 710, Nara Age was oppend by Silla's powerful familly and sons of Bacje Emperor
1. Alphabet name "Japan" came from China
2. Japanese name "nippon" came from " il-bon " (Korean language)
and made by Silla's powerful familly and sons of Bacje Emperor like the capital name "Nara".
3. 日本 made by 천지왕(天智王)
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Also Jared Diamond's article about the origins of the Japanese:
http://www.kimsoft.com/2004/japanese_roots.htm
This pdf file is about the similarities between ancient Korean languages and modern Japanese.
www.kimsoft.com/2004/kr-jp-languageTxt.pdf
More links here (if you ignore the prehistoric stuff about Korea, the article there is not a bad summary): http://www.kimsoft.com/2004/jp-origin.htm |
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Cedar
Joined: 11 Mar 2003
Location: In front of my computer, again.
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| Posted: Sat May 27, 2006 8:17 am Post subject: |
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I say there's a lot of pressure on the girls here, since "slightly overweight" in Korea is "obese".
You do see girls who have a bit of meat on 'em - good thing too IMO - but the main state of affairs is thin if you aks me. |
You don't even need to be slightly overweight to be obese...(in Korean eyes) |
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