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mithridates
Joined: 03 Mar 2003
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 Posted: Sun May 28, 2006 4:56 am Post subject: 200 metres from top of Everest,man halts climb to rescue man |
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A Calgary woman says she's very proud of her husband for being part of a team that saved an Australian climber who was left for dead on Mount Everest.
"I know he feels he made the right decision," Jennifer Brash said of her husband Andrew. "He was very close to the summit, but more importantly, he did the right thing for this climber," she told CBC News on Saturday.
Lincoln Hall reached the summit on Thursday and was descending with his Russian-led expedition when he reportedly became delirious, a sign of fluid on the brain, and could not be moved. His wife and teenage sons had been told he had died.
Hall spent the night alone at an elevation of 8,700 metres, before other climbers including the Calgarian found him the next morning.
Brash's group gave Hall tea, oxygen and a radio for communication. Hall later received medical attention from Sherpas who moved him to a warm tent.
On Saturday, Hall was able to walk into the advanced base camp, 6,400 metres above sea level. He was being treated for frostbite and cerebral edema � swelling to the brain caused by altitude sickness.
Brash was only 200 metres from the summit when he decided to abandon his climb and help the Australian, his wife said.
It was Brash's second attempt in the last two weeks to reach the top of the world's tallest mountain.
"I'm sure he has some mixed emotions, maybe not right now, but in the future he might, and it will probably haunt him for the rest of his life," she said.
"But I know that he'll be happy with his decision, and it's a greater achievement than actually reaching the summit, to be part of saving someone's life."
The rescue of the Australian mountaineer follows the well-publicized and controversial death of another Everest climber last week.
David Sharp of England died on the mountain of apparent oxygen deprivation, and reports have alleged that more than 40 fellow mountaineers opted not to assist him despite his situation. |
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happeningthang
Joined: 26 Apr 2003
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| Posted: Sun May 28, 2006 5:08 am Post subject: |
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| There are people who think it's more important to make it to the top rather than saving someone??? |
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mithridates
Joined: 03 Mar 2003
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| Posted: Sun May 28, 2006 5:14 am Post subject: |
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| happeningthang wrote: |
| There are people who think it's more important to make it to the top rather than saving someone??? |
Yeah, did you miss those other threads? Maybe they were in off-topic. That's why I posted this article here because just a few days ago an English guy was left for dead by about 40 people that decided it was more important to finish their climb. |
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Junior
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| Posted: Sun May 28, 2006 5:34 am Post subject: |
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Thats what you call "missing the point."
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Zulu
Joined: 28 Apr 2006
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| Posted: Sun May 28, 2006 6:05 am Post subject: |
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| Great to see some people still have that kind of humanity and sense of honor in them. Unlike those other 40 bastards on Everest. |
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the_beaver
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Sun May 28, 2006 6:10 am Post subject: |
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| Have you ever read Into Thin Air : A Personal Account of the Mt. Everest Disaster? Gives a lot of insight as to why someone might not help anybody -- basically, most people up that high are in a stupor and the brain isn't working all that well. |
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Zulu
Joined: 28 Apr 2006
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| Posted: Sun May 28, 2006 7:07 am Post subject: |
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| the_beaver wrote: |
| Have you ever read Into Thin Air : A Personal Account of the Mt. Everest Disaster? Gives a lot of insight as to why someone might not help anybody -- basically, most people up that high are in a stupor and the brain isn't working all that well. |
Yes Beaver, I've read it. This was not a case of oxygen deprivation. They certainly had enough oxygen to continue their climb and no doubt for a nice little photo shoot and celebration at the top.
This was a case of 40 glory seeking sons of bitches walking right past a dying man so they could summit, not a case of having summited too late in the day and being out of oxygen on the descent and caught in a sudden snowstorm as in Krackauer's account.
Those climbers put their own glory ahead of the life of a fellow human being and I hope you don't wish to rationalize that somehow. Those people were sick. Plain and simple. End of debate.
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happeningthang
Joined: 26 Apr 2003
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| Posted: Sun May 28, 2006 7:11 am Post subject: |
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| . End of debate. |
Why, because you say so?? |
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Zulu
Joined: 28 Apr 2006
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| Posted: Sun May 28, 2006 7:14 am Post subject: |
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| happeningthang wrote: |
| Zulu wrote: |
| . End of debate. |
Why, because you say so?? |
Yes, asshole, for the plain and simple reason that I'm not debating it, nor will I change my opinion on this matter. |
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Zulu
Joined: 28 Apr 2006
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| Posted: Sun May 28, 2006 7:19 am Post subject: |
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| happeningthang wrote: |
| Zulu wrote: |
| . End of debate. |
Why, because you say so?? |
What's more, I hope you are lucky enough to find a fellow human being willing to help you or yours if they are ever in a life threatening situation.
The degree of selfishness and self-centerdness displayed by some people on this board is disgusting. What a disappointment to hear all this apathy. |
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happeningthang
Joined: 26 Apr 2003
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| Posted: Sun May 28, 2006 7:31 am Post subject: |
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Wow..
I think your sense of outrage is letting you see things that aren't necessarily there.
I don't think anyone here was advocating what happpened to the British climber as being in anyway justified. I think Beaver was just trying to give an explanation as to how this could happen, because, like me, I find it hard to believe that anyone could be that callous...it makes me think there has to be more to it. |
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Zulu
Joined: 28 Apr 2006
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| Posted: Sun May 28, 2006 7:49 am Post subject: |
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| happeningthang wrote: |
Wow..
I think your sense of outrage is letting you see things that aren't necessarily there.
I don't think anyone here was advocating what happpened to the British climber as being in anyway justified. I think Beaver was just trying to give an explanation as to how this could happen, because, like me, I find it hard to believe that anyone could be that callous...it makes me think there has to be more to it. |
Well then I guess people like Edmund Hillary (remember him) are also "seeing things that aren't there".
I'm far from the only person outraged by this, everybody, without exception whom I've talked with in person has been outraged and it's made people all over the world feel just a bit sick to their stomachs so *beep* off with your condescending suggestion that people who feel disgust at this episode are "overreacting". I'd worry about anyone that wasn't upset by this. As I said, asshole, this is not up for debate.
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Zulu
Joined: 28 Apr 2006
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| Posted: Sun May 28, 2006 7:53 am Post subject: |
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| happeningthang wrote: |
Wow..
I think your sense of outrage is letting you see things that aren't necessarily there.
I don't think anyone here was advocating what happpened to the British climber as being in anyway justified. I think Beaver was just trying to give an explanation as to how this could happen, because, like me, I find it hard to believe that anyone could be that callous...it makes me think there has to be more to it. |
Ok, on second thoughts, fair enough. Perhaps i jumped on you for the wrong reason and if so my apologies to you.
And I'm not trying to be condescending when I say that it's odd you'd find it hard to believe people can be that callous. I'd like to believe that too but a read of history or a daily newspaper shows us people are that callous and more all the time. |
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