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Is Declaring English the Official Lang. "Racist"?
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Is Declaring English the Official Lang. "Racist"?
Yes
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No
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Gopher



Joined: 04 Jun 2005

PostPosted: Sun May 28, 2006 8:41 am    Post subject: Is Declaring English the Official Lang. "Racist"? Reply with quote

A proposed amendment would make English the official lang. in the U.S., and opponents are calling this "racist."

Do you think so? Why or why not?
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Hater Depot



Joined: 29 Mar 2005

PostPosted: Sun May 28, 2006 8:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't think it is inherently racist. Certainly at least some of the proponents of this have racist motivations.

On the other hand in some circles, 'racist' has been defined down to 'people who disagree with me'.
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Tiger Beer



Joined: 07 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Sun May 28, 2006 8:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Its not racist.. it just some type of government symbolism of some sort.

Its also not about to be the 'official language'.. they are watering it down and calling it the 'national language'.. and its basically just some kind of symbolic statement in relation to massive immigration from Mexico - along with this entire minutemen on the Arizona border thing.

As far as legally taking away any of the many bilingual education type things.. or federal forms/documents and making English only.. none of that stuff will happen with this amendment.

Its pure symbolism and nothing more.. and the fact its just that.. kind of makes it a pointless expenditure of tax-payer dollars for no real apparent reason.
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bucheon bum



Joined: 16 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Sun May 28, 2006 8:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No, but I still don't support the idea of having an official language of the USA. I think that is one thing that makes it unique.
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jajdude



Joined: 18 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Sun May 28, 2006 9:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jeez, who cares? How many people know that the US has no official language? The whole world thinks English when they think USA. Don't close to 90% speak it? A good bit more percent-wise than in Canada.

(And I do believe there are a few other nations without an official language.)
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bignate



Joined: 30 Apr 2003
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PostPosted: Sun May 28, 2006 11:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No, I don't think that it is racist....a little ignorant and hubristic, but not racist.
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Bulsajo



Joined: 16 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Sun May 28, 2006 11:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

People are focused on the emotional arguments for and against but should be aware that there could be a whole host of legal, financial, and bureaucratic impacts on this issue... maintaining the current status quo, is that really such a bad thing?
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Gopher



Joined: 04 Jun 2005

PostPosted: Sun May 28, 2006 12:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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A policy favouring the official language is a policy of unilingualism. Sometimes, it favours the national language, sometime it favours a colonial language with a strong influence internationally. In some cases, such policies are accompanied by measures recognizing and protecting minority languages.

Jurisdictions having such a policy:

�land - Albania - Algeria - Andorra - Azerbaijan - California - Cambodia - Colombia - Cyprus - Croatia - Egypt - Estonia - France - Greece - India - Iran - Iceland - Israel - Italy - Japan - Kuwait - Latvia - Lebanon - Lithuania - Macedonia - Madagascar - Morocco - Mexico - Moldova - Montenegro - North Korea - Nepal - Peru - Poland - Romania - Saint-Pierre and Miquelon - Serbia and Montenegro - Slovakia - Somalia - South Korea - Spain - Tunisia - Uzbekistan - Vietnam - Voivodina


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Language_policy


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Wangja



Joined: 17 May 2004
Location: Seoul, Yongsan

PostPosted: Sun May 28, 2006 3:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not racist.

Mildly amusing, not roll in the aisles stuff, but not racist.
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Woland



Joined: 10 May 2006
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Sun May 28, 2006 3:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not racist. Just a waste of time. If it actually had any real impact on people, like reducing access to services or things like that, then it would be dangerous.
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mindmetoo



Joined: 02 Feb 2004

PostPosted: Sun May 28, 2006 3:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The motivation seems to be, while not racist, errr wanting to send a message to some constituents.

Most nations do have one or more official languages. Canada two, Switzerland, crap, maybe about 8. From a libertarian point of view, let the market decide. If you're in Miami or Texas, you're going to supply services in English and Spanish certainly. At a minimum let the states decide. Granted there is the problem of what languages you supply government services in. Although Canada has two official languages, of course it supplies many services in Chinese, Italian, etc. where appropriate.

I think an official language, at most, should state something along the lines of government services and education are only guaranteed in the official language. Important product information need to be labelled at least in the official language. One cannot argue justified ignorance of the law if it's solely in English.

However, it should not be used like Quebec to dictate what language a business' signs are in. It should not be used as a moral hammer to dictate what language employees might want to speak on their break, etc.
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ajgeddes



Joined: 28 Apr 2004
Location: Yongsan

PostPosted: Sun May 28, 2006 6:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You would think for people to call something racist, it would need to have something to do with race. Can only white people speak English?

Anyways, on to the point. There is nothing wrong with it. It is just a lame attempt to keep Spanish from taking over certain states.
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Ilsanman



Joined: 15 Aug 2003
Location: Bucheon, Korea

PostPosted: Mon May 29, 2006 7:45 am    Post subject: yes Reply with quote

This just goes to show that foreigners have been given wayyyyy too much liberty in USA and it needs to be cut off.

Korea has embraced English, but I don't expect them to take it as their official language. Nor would I tell them to.
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mindmetoo



Joined: 02 Feb 2004

PostPosted: Mon May 29, 2006 3:52 pm    Post subject: Re: yes Reply with quote

Ilsanman wrote:
This just goes to show that foreigners have been given wayyyyy too much liberty in USA and it needs to be cut off.


Yeah because when people pledge about liberty and justice for all, they clearly don't mean liberty and justice for all.
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Octavius Hite



Joined: 28 Jan 2004
Location: Househunting, looking for a new bunker from which to convert the world to homosexuality.

PostPosted: Mon May 29, 2006 4:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Racist. It's clear that the intent of the move is to show Latino's whose in charge. The fact that it is coming out now in middle of a huge immigration fight and an election campaign is no surprise. Like gay marriage in the last few elections, the republicans will use this to fool the redneck vote into believing that the dems want to make them speak spanish and turn the country over to the dark people. Thats whats going on here and everyone (whose educated and been paying attention since 2000) knows it.
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