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tiger fancini



Joined: 21 Mar 2006
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PostPosted: Sun May 28, 2006 3:12 pm    Post subject: Vladivostok Reply with quote

I quite fancy going to check this place out during my vacation, and was just wondering if anyone's actually been? Any information re getting there and things to do there would be much appreciated.
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soviet_man



Joined: 23 Apr 2005
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Sun May 28, 2006 6:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Vladivostok is not cheap for foreign tourists. Airfares from Korea to Vladivostok (return) remain very high. There are only two airlines and the cheapest flights are currently priced at 720,000 return.

Then when you get there, hotel accommodation in Vladivostok is also extremely high. So you are looking at spending at least 1 million upfront just for flights, visa and accommodation. Not a cheap proposition.

Current airfares:

Vladivostok Avia (Economy) 720,000
Korean Air (Economy) 760,000
Vladivostok Avia (Business) 830,000
Korean Air (Business) 1,380,000

In peak summer weeks, fares will get even higher. Last summer, Korean Air were selling economy seats Incheon-Vladivostok for 1.6 million return, not including tax.

The Dongchun ferry still goes from Sokcho to Zarubino (near Vladivostok) once or twice a week for a much cheaper price.
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dogbert



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PostPosted: Sun May 28, 2006 8:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

soviet_man wrote:
Vladivostok is not cheap for foreign tourists. Airfares from Korea to Vladivostok (return) remain very high. There are only two airlines and the cheapest flights are currently priced at 720,000 return.

Then when you get there, hotel accommodation in Vladivostok is also extremely high. So you are looking at spending at least 1 million upfront just for flights, visa and accommodation. Not a cheap proposition.

Current airfares:

Vladivostok Avia (Economy) 720,000
Korean Air (Economy) 760,000
Vladivostok Avia (Business) 830,000
Korean Air (Business) 1,380,000

In peak summer weeks, fares will get even higher. Last summer, Korean Air were selling economy seats Incheon-Vladivostok for 1.6 million return, not including tax.

The Dongchun ferry still goes from Sokcho to Zarubino (near Vladivostok) once or twice a week for a much cheaper price.


I've been.

Vladivostok Avia will sell you a package of flight + accomodation + visa/letter of invitation that is probably cheaper than what you could arrange on your own separately. And you can bargain with them a bit.

I have not taken the ferry, but I doubt that public transit connections between Zarubino and Vladivostok are any better than those from Artyom (where the airport is) and Vladivostok and Zarubino is further away from Vladivostok from Artyom, so you're looking most likely at high taxi fares to and from as well.

Unless you've got a jones for the sea, I'd take the flight, it's quick and you get to look down over North Korea.
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periwinkle



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PostPosted: Mon May 29, 2006 12:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know a guy that's been there a few times. He said EVERYTHING is mafia run, and absolutely do not go out at night or you'll be mugged. He said it's like the wild west. Said everyone in the city gov't is mafia. Anyway, he likes to go fishing in Siberia, so Vladivostok is just his port of entry. It doesn't sound like there's much tourism in Vladivostok. He said Siberia has amazing wildlife, so a lot of scientists/ researchers go to Siberia to study the wildlife- especially where the subarid climate meets the tundra.
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dogbert



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PostPosted: Mon May 29, 2006 2:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've been to both Vladivostok and Siberia too and while you are probably safer from crime in the country than in the city wherever you go, I found Vladivostok safe, didn't feel threatened at all, day, night, whenever. YMMV.
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davai!



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PostPosted: Mon May 29, 2006 12:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The ferry seems to run all the way to Vladivostok on Thursdays, gets in on Friday Evenings, From Vladivostok departure on Sat, arrives Sunday night.

The ferry terminal in Vladivostok is the very center of town. However, it seems to take an additional 10 or so hours to go there from Zarubino, where you can take the minivan in about 2.

Prices one way/return:

On the deck (30-50 people/room ) W168,000/W285,000

On the deck (10-36 people/room) W180,000/W306,000

3 per room (on the deck w/ sink and TV) W204,000/W346,800

4 per room (on the deck w/ bathroom, TV) W216,000/W367,200

4 per room (w/ beds, bath and TV) W228,000/W387,600

2 per room (w/ beds, bath, and TV) W288,000/W489,600

2 per room (w/ beds, bath, refrig., TV, meeting hall) W312,000/W530,400

Telephones: Seoul (02 ) 720-0101, Sokcho: (033) 638-2100

I�ve never taken the boat, but called to reserve (Sokcho #) and they took it over the phone and quoted me a price. Only asked for my passport #. They have an English speaker there.

http://www.dongchunferry.co.kr/

As far as the traveler is concerned, Vladivostok is not that unsafe, lest you get caught in an internal �mafia� squabble. Just don�t dress too loudly and speak English too loudly on the street and you should be fine. It will probably get a little getting used to the food, as there are no safeties like McD�s or Subway, but it is an interesting city nevertheless. Your biggest worry will probably be the Militsia, who would just love to shake you down for a couple hundred rubles. Smile


Enjoy it. If you�re there anywhere between June 11th and July 6th, drop me a PM, I�ll get you a beer and a dozen vodkas!
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Tiger Beer



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 06, 2006 10:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anyone know what the weather might be like around Chuseok? (1st week of October?) its around 50F night and 75F day right now.. another one month.. it couldn't get that much colder, could it?

Most importantly!! How about Vladivotok Hotel? Anyone stay there? Looks like right in the heart of the city!
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soviet_man



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Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Wed Sep 06, 2006 5:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You have to watch the dual pricing in Vladivostok. The advertised prices at the Vladivostok Hotel are "foreigner prices" (in other words very high) and locals wouldn't ever be caught paying such absurd rates.

Another example is at Vladivostok airport (which is located 30 miles from the city). A local bus to city costs about 20 roubles. But most foreigners head straight for the taxis and pay 800 roubles or more.

So it would probably be cheaper (for you) to book the flight + accom package through Vladivostok Airlines directly. They have offices in Seoul and Busan. You will still get overcharged, but chances are - to a lesser degree than if you tried to book individual services yourself.

Also you can't currently convert won/roubles at Incheon airport. But you can at the Russian/Uzbeki currency shops (in the streets about a block from Dongdaemun Stadium subway exit #10).
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Tiger Beer



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 06, 2006 6:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

soviet_man wrote:
Also you can't currently convert won/roubles at Incheon airport. But you can at the Russian/Uzbeki currency shops (in the streets about a block from Dongdaemun Stadium subway exit #10).

Can you exchange won in Vladivostok? Or is it better to bring US$?

I'll look into Vladivostok Air. I saw Aeroflot has a layover from Seoul to Vladivostok - in Moscow! Shocked
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endo



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 2:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Has anyone here even been to the Kamchatka Peninsula via Vladivostok and Seoul?

And if so do you know of any tour opperators there?
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soviet_man



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 6:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Can you exchange won in Vladivostok? Or is it better to bring US$?


I travel from Korea to Russia several times a year and I've never been able to change S.Korean won into roubles in Russia lawfully. But you may find a money changer on the street willing to convert them. Keep in mind the Vladivostok Air flight arrives in Russia at 6.30pm at night, so it is not easy if you have no local currency.

US dollars (and also sometimes Euros) can usually be changed in Vladivostok (but not normally at the airport). Look for small kiosks with "$" signs on it in the main street.

The Russian/Uzbeki shops around Dongdaemun Stadium (or Russia Town in Busan) are the best places to convert won into roubles before and after, if you are in Korea.



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Has anyone here even been to the Kamchatka Peninsula via Vladivostok and Seoul? And if so do you know of any tour opperators there?


Sakhalinsk Avia, Vladivostok Avia, Dalavia, Siberia Airlines and Aeroflot all have flights operating from Seoul to Petropavlovsk via other Russian cities. Any of those could sell you a ticket, but I've never seen any package tours specifically (hell I'd also be half interested if someone knows of a package). All of them would be approaching the 800,000+ mark return.
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Tiger Beer



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 8:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I saw Korean Airlines going for 860,000 after tax. How would that be compared to Vladivostok Airlines?
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dogbert



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 08, 2006 2:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

endo wrote:
Has anyone here even been to the Kamchatka Peninsula via Vladivostok and Seoul?

And if so do you know of any tour opperators there?


I have. I went through Fregat Aero and recommend them.

I've also stayed at the Vladivostok Hotel. Soviet Man is correct: it would be cheaper getting accomodation there as a package deal. Like a lot of Russian hotels, it has Russian floors and "foreigner" floors and no matter how well you speak Russian, your passport will give you away and you will be paying the foreigner price.

But the hotel itself is not bad and the location is good.
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indytrucks



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 08, 2006 3:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've always been curious about Vladivostok ... this thread is interesting. I guess if I had to ask a question it would be: what is there to see and do? Are the sights contained within the city, or are there things to do outside?
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Tiger Beer



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PostPosted: Sat Sep 09, 2006 11:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

indytrucks wrote:
I've always been curious about Vladivostok ... this thread is interesting. I guess if I had to ask a question it would be: what is there to see and do? Are the sights contained within the city, or are there things to do outside?

As far as I can tell (without having been there - yet).. would be:

1) 16 forts encircle Vladivostok. They also have tunnels. Mostly to protect against Japanese, etc.
2) waterfront and harbor.
3) Slavyanka - ferry boat ride 50km - fairly close to North Korea.

I think for me, I'd just be curious to see this Russian cities with probably Asian tourists everywhere. Curious of the dynamics.. and Vladivostok is only 2 1/2 hours away by plane.

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For those who have been there.. are all the hotels downtown fairly convenient to everything. The city doesn't look all that big.

By the way, how about Hotel Amursky Zaliv? By odd chance, anyone know anything about that place for accomodations. Looks to be looking over the waterfront.
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