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Pyongshin Sangja
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Newbie
Joined: 07 Feb 2003
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| Posted: Sun May 28, 2006 10:51 pm Post subject: |
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| hogwonguy1979 wrote: |
| some days Thailand is further ahead than Korea in being foreigner friendly. |
364 days of the year! Who would ever say that Korea (on a whole) is EVER foreign friendly
As for the English commentary ... I can't believe how spoiled some of you are to think there should be commentary here. Why would there be? Ridiculous. |
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Zulu
Joined: 28 Apr 2006
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| Posted: Mon May 29, 2006 12:25 am Post subject: |
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| Zulu wrote: |
| Homer wrote: |
| I-guy..come on man....why would they provide English commentary on TV here???It makes no sense..... |
Which is why other Asian countries like Vietnam, China and Hong Kong offer the service? Sure, they don't have to offer this, it's only the World Cup after all, but if they want to compete with aforementioned countries to become the 'hub of Asia' they'd better start paying attention. Trust me, a lot of the international business community take into account exactly these little things when deciding where to set up regional centres of operations, etc. and Korea is not that high up the list. |
Another English teacher pretending to be someting else. isnt your haggie class starting now? Go teach your kindies. |
another example of your trying to feel superior to the rest of us.  |
bullcrap. I dont try to feel superior to anyone, and if thats how some posts come off, its not the intention. When did I ever say I was superior? I have strong opinions that I argue strongly, but thats not because Im trying to feel suprrior to anyone. Zulu is a guy pretending to be some big shot worker at a company, and from what Ive read in his posts, theres really not much there to make me think he is a big shot. Just a guy pretending to be something he isnt. |
Jinju's posts get more and more desperate.
Have you in all your time in country never met a foreigner who works in a place other than a language institute? I can PROMISE you Jinju, I do not teach in, nor have I ever taught in an English 'hagwon' but unlike yourself nor do I hold a grudge against those that do. I think most of them are extremely patient and dedicated people.
Working in something other than a language institute however doesn't qualify one as a "big shot" but as much as it obviously irks you I am certainly not 'trapped n Korea' either. If that were the case I'd probably just shoot myself and get it over with.
You should know that most hagwon teachers themselves are not trapped here either. Many I've met have worked in other places such as Japan, South America and Hong Kong and many say they plan to move on. Do you seriously think Korea is the only place these people can find work? If so I suggest you learn a bit more about the job market in that field.
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Gwangjuboy
Joined: 08 Jul 2003
Location: England
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| Posted: Mon May 29, 2006 2:26 am Post subject: |
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| Another English teacher pretending to be someting else. isnt your haggie class starting now? Go teach your kindies. |
Is this how big shot company executives behave? Jesus, I bet the interview was a cakewalk if you got through it. |
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jinju
Joined: 22 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Mon May 29, 2006 2:42 am Post subject: |
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| Gwangjuboy wrote: |
| jinju wrote: |
| Another English teacher pretending to be someting else. isnt your haggie class starting now? Go teach your kindies. |
Is this how big shot company executives behave? Jesus, I bet the interview was a cakewalk if you got through it. |
Im not an executive, wouldnt want to be one oh yee who hail from the red neck capital of Korea ...Jeolla? Oh man how did you survive without running water? |
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Homer
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| Posted: Mon May 29, 2006 2:46 am Post subject: |
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| Trust me, a lot of the international business community take into account exactly these little things when deciding where to set up regional centres of operations, etc. and Korea is not that high up the list. |
Now this is a gem... 
International businesses will consider Korea not broadcasting World Cup games within Korea with English commentary as a negative in their decision to do business here?
The media are catering to their market here and as much as you want it to be, foreign teachers in Korea are not a "market" of any significance when it comes to ratings and broadcasting.
Also, the games will be widely available on the net or if you have a satelite provider. Some sports bars in Seoul will also tune in to English networks to show some of the games in English. Or and this is a crazy idea...just watch the games without the commentary..as someone said its not rocket science.....
Anyway, the games being broadcast in English would have been for some a bonus. It should be considered as such and definitively not as a due or as service you deserve.... |
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jinju
Joined: 22 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Mon May 29, 2006 2:54 am Post subject: |
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| Man, I was here in 2002 and I survived without English language coverage. Its a game, do you really NEED to understand the commentators? |
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SPINOZA
Joined: 10 Jun 2005
Location: $eoul
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| Posted: Mon May 29, 2006 3:36 am Post subject: |
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Yes, it's definitely my favorite Cafe cliche now.....the "hub of Asia".
"Adjuma bumped into me without saying sorry in a crowded 6pm Jongno-3-ga subway station....hub of Asia, my ass".
"Girl in burger king didn't put ice in my sprite...clear anti-foreign bias, they'll never be the hub of Asia".
Whine about not having the footy with English commentators, that's fair enough. But for f_ck's sake don't make a "Hub of Asia" reference at every slight annoyance. It's just thoughtless cliche-use.
Previous Cafe cliche faves have been "pick your battles carefully" and "I like women with curves", but I suppose there isn;t an online board in the world that doesn't contain the latter often enough. |
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Zulu
Joined: 28 Apr 2006
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| Trust me, a lot of the international business community take into account exactly these little things when deciding where to set up regional centres of operations, etc. and Korea is not that high up the list. |
Now this is a gem...
International businesses will consider Korea not broadcasting World Cup games within Korea with English commentary as a negative in their decision to do business here? |
The lol is that you tend to spout off about those things you clearly know nothing about. Also, I specifically said "the international business community take into account exactly these little things when deciding where to set up regional centres of operations, etc. and Korea is not that high up the list", which IS clearly the case.
You seem to know little of Mercer Rankings of Quality of Living/Quality of Life, or CBI Rankings.
I'll quote from this well known HR company for your benefit: "When multinational companies set up expatriate assignments they have to provide attractive reward packages to compensate employees for any negative changes to their quality of living,� Yvonne Sonsino, Principal at Mercer, commented. �Moving abroad can be a big upheaval for expatriates and their families, so international assignments tend to carry large price tags, particularly if they are in cities with low living standards facing political unrest or terrorist threats.� She added: �Many companies use benchmark data to help them structure pay deals at the right level.�
http://www.mercerhr.com/summary.jhtml;jsessionid=SJ3NJVXETZ02ACTGOUFCIIQKMZ0QUI2C?idContent=1128060#v
Note that Seoul is not in the top 5 even in Asia, and globally it ranks way down the list at 90th position. For businesses deciding where and who to relocate, the little things do add up, Homey. Surely even you know that. |
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jinju
Joined: 22 Jan 2006
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| So what you are saying is that expats that work for companies are big wimps who need to have home basically replicated for them or else they start crying? No English world cup service? OH NO! Cry me a river! How will those expats ever survive?! That must be REAL hardship. |
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hogwonguy1979
Joined: 22 Dec 2003
Location: the racoon den
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| Posted: Mon May 29, 2006 3:54 am Post subject: |
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| AFKN gonna show the games? |
back on topic here, the answer is no. FIFA is very tight on giving rights out and 1) The Koreans likely objected and 2) the rights fee even for the military is likely more than AFN could afford. Remember most sources don't charge afn rights fees for programs
yeah fifa can be greedy b@stards |
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sjrm
Joined: 27 Jul 2005
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| Posted: Mon May 29, 2006 3:59 am Post subject: |
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| So what you are saying is that expats that work for companies are big wimps who need to have home basically replicated for them or else they start crying? No English world cup service? OH NO! Cry me a river! How will those expats ever survive?! That must be REAL hardship. |
it does make life easier for the workers. happier workers equals higher productivity which equals higher profits. maybe you should have thought of that too. |
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jinju
Joined: 22 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Mon May 29, 2006 4:01 am Post subject: |
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| hogwonguy1979 wrote: |
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| AFKN gonna show the games? |
back on topic here, the answer is no. FIFA is very tight on giving rights out and 1) The Koreans likely objected and 2) the rights fee even for the military is likely more than AFN could afford. Remember most sources don't charge afn rights fees for programs
yeah fifa can be greedy b@stards |
Greedy? Cmon, FIFA has no obligation to give the US military free rights to broadcast the World Cup. Give me a break.
People, just watch the damn game on Korean TV. Geez. Its not the end of the world. |
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jinju
Joined: 22 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Mon May 29, 2006 4:04 am Post subject: |
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| sjrm wrote: |
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| So what you are saying is that expats that work for companies are big wimps who need to have home basically replicated for them or else they start crying? No English world cup service? OH NO! Cry me a river! How will those expats ever survive?! That must be REAL hardship. |
it does make life easier for the workers. happier workers equals higher productivity which equals higher profits. maybe you should have thought of that too. |
Oh please. You are telling me that for workers to do their job they have to be pampered? What ever happened to going to another country and getting to know it instead of living in a little bubble where everything is like back home? Its ridiculous. I came here to get the hell away from all that western b.s. and experience a culture and country unknown to me at the time. I have no respect for cry babies who bitch and moan that things arent exactly like back home. Those guys are making a killing, living in serviced apartments and yet they still need more? What a bunch of wooses. |
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sjrm
Joined: 27 Jul 2005
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| So what you are saying is that expats that work for companies are big wimps who need to have home basically replicated for them or else they start crying? No English world cup service? OH NO! Cry me a river! How will those expats ever survive?! That must be REAL hardship. |
it does make life easier for the workers. happier workers equals higher productivity which equals higher profits. maybe you should have thought of that too. |
Oh please. You are telling me that for workers to do their job they have to be pampered? What ever happened to going to another country and getting to know it instead of living in a little bubble where everything is like back home? Its ridiculous. I came here to get the hell away from all that western b.s. and experience a culture and country unknown to me at the time. I have no respect for cry babies who *beep* and moan that things arent exactly like back home. |
not necessarily having to be pampered. just being in a place that doesn't make their lives harder than it has to be. i mean, c'mon, it's not easy moving to a foreign country, but having your employees be in a place they don't want to be in makes things harder for you and the employee. and yes, the little things make a huge difference in business. |
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