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| I have been here continuously for more than three years |
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poet13
Joined: 22 Jan 2006
Location: Just over there....throwing lemons.
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 Posted: Mon May 29, 2006 3:38 pm Post subject: Did you know foreigners can vote in the local elections? |
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I made a bet with a student last night. She said that I, as a Canadian (NOT dual national), could vote in local elections. I said, NO WAY! She said, " if you have been here a year. you can." So in the end, we bet a 3000cc draft beer on it. Well, we both win.
You CAN vote, so she wins, but its only after three years, so I win.
From the Korea Times
"Foreigners Excited to Have 1st Voting Rights
By Park Song-wu
Staff Reporter
The right to vote is considered very natural, given that it is granted to everybody aged 19 or more in South Korea. But it makes Lee Pao-li, 52, excited as he can cast ballots on May 31 for the first time in his life even though he was born and raised here.
Lee is one of 6,579 foreigners who can exercise their suffrage in the upcoming local elections that is given to those over 18 and have had permanent residence for at least three years.
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"South Korea is the first country in Asia to give voting rights to foreign residents."
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" The government decided to give foreign residents voting rights in local elections to elect administrative chiefs, such as mayors, governors and council members, with the idea that it is proper for them to participate in procedures that could directly affect their lives.
However, they still do not have voting rights for presidential and parliamentary elections under the current law. "
Surprised me! |
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dogbert
Joined: 29 Jan 2003
Location: Killbox 90210
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| Posted: Mon May 29, 2006 4:23 pm Post subject: |
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Not to rain on the parade, but it is not just having lived here for three years, but having lived here having had permanent residency status for three years (i.e., an F-5 visa).
I'm pretty sure there's someone who posts here who likes to talk about that a lot, maybe she'll chime in. |
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poet13
Joined: 22 Jan 2006
Location: Just over there....throwing lemons.
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| Posted: Mon May 29, 2006 4:29 pm Post subject: |
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| Ah, ok. Whats the difference between the ARC status and permanent residence? Honestly have no idea... |
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Col.Brandon
Joined: 09 Aug 2004
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Mon May 29, 2006 5:46 pm Post subject: |
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Hmmm, which @sshole shall I vote for? @sshole #1, 2, or 3?
To whom shall I give the opportunity to put their snout in the trough?
Who shall I reward for disrupting my classes all week with their noise pollution outside my classroom window?
You shouldn't vote for politicians. It only encourages them. |
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dogbert
Joined: 29 Jan 2003
Location: Killbox 90210
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| Posted: Mon May 29, 2006 7:37 pm Post subject: |
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| poet13 wrote: |
| Ah, ok. Whats the difference between the ARC status and permanent residence? Honestly have no idea... |
That's a good question and I cannot answer precisely, but you need an ARC if you are going to stay in Korea for more than 90 days, regardless of your visa status. Permanent residency is a certain type of visa. |
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jinju
Joined: 22 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Mon May 29, 2006 7:48 pm Post subject: |
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| poet13 wrote: |
| Ah, ok. Whats the difference between the ARC status and permanent residence? Honestly have no idea... |
Those on an F5 visa can vote. F5 means permanent residency, its like a greencard in the US. Its permanent meaning you never lose it, doesnt have to be extended and it basically makes you a Korean..without some rights that Korean citizens enjoy (voting for president and the National Assembly) but also without the burdens (military service). F5s enjoy total, uninhibited employment freedoms, can work as many jobs and any job that they wish, just like a Korean. The thing about 3 years seems to not be totally true, as I got my pacakage from the elections office and will be able to vote. Only those on an F5 visa can vote. E2, E1, F2-1 visas, etc are not elligible to vote in the elections no matter how long they have been here. |
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Demophobe
Joined: 17 May 2004
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| Posted: Mon May 29, 2006 7:57 pm Post subject: |
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| jinju wrote: |
| poet13 wrote: |
| Ah, ok. Whats the difference between the ARC status and permanent residence? Honestly have no idea... |
Those on an F5 visa can vote. F5 means permanent residency, its like a greencard in the US. Its permanent meaning you never lose it, doesnt have to be extended and it basically makes you a Korean..without some rights that Korean citizens enjoy (voting for president and the National Assembly) but also without the burdens (military service). F5s enjoy total, uninhibited employment freedoms, can work as many jobs and any job that they wish, just like a Korean. The thing about 3 years seems to not be totally true, as I got my pacakage from the elections office and will be able to vote. Only those on an F5 visa can vote. E2, E1, F2-1 visas, etc are not elligible to vote in the elections no matter how long they have been here. |
So you were just baiting me in the other thread then? 7:28 / 7:48....
No, I didn't get a pckage...my wife did, but my name wasn't there.
F2 can do everything you said in your post (save voting), but it gets lost in the event of divorce. |
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Hollywoodaction
Joined: 02 Jul 2004
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| Posted: Mon May 29, 2006 8:17 pm Post subject: |
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| You need to clarify that it's F5 for 3 years. I've had mine for less than that, so won't be able to vote. You'll know if you can if you receive a nice little package of fliers from the different canditates that has your name on it. |
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jinju
Joined: 22 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Mon May 29, 2006 8:45 pm Post subject: |
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| Demophobe wrote: |
| jinju wrote: |
| poet13 wrote: |
| Ah, ok. Whats the difference between the ARC status and permanent residence? Honestly have no idea... |
Those on an F5 visa can vote. F5 means permanent residency, its like a greencard in the US. Its permanent meaning you never lose it, doesnt have to be extended and it basically makes you a Korean..without some rights that Korean citizens enjoy (voting for president and the National Assembly) but also without the burdens (military service). F5s enjoy total, uninhibited employment freedoms, can work as many jobs and any job that they wish, just like a Korean. The thing about 3 years seems to not be totally true, as I got my pacakage from the elections office and will be able to vote. Only those on an F5 visa can vote. E2, E1, F2-1 visas, etc are not elligible to vote in the elections no matter how long they have been here. |
So you were just baiting me in the other thread then? 7:28 / 7:48....
No, I didn't get a pckage...my wife did, but my name wasn't there.
F2 can do everything you said in your post (save voting), but it gets lost in the event of divorce. |
Save voting, save not having to renew, save not having to get entry stamps, save being able to go through the ultra fast Korean line at Incheon when coming back into the country:)
Hollywood, Ive had mine for less than that and I have my package from the elction office so i can vote. |
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Corporal
Joined: 25 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Mon May 29, 2006 9:15 pm Post subject: |
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| I don't want to vote. I'll be happy when the fvckers stop blasting stupid election jingles to the tune of Arirang all over the neighborhood at 9 am though. |
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jinju
Joined: 22 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Mon May 29, 2006 9:19 pm Post subject: |
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| I don't want to vote. I'll be happy when the fvckers stop blasting stupid election jingles to the tune of Arirang all over the neighborhood at 9 am though. |
Well, fine, that makes you politically apathetic so if you ever offer up a poliical opinion I will blast you for it. Politically apathetic people should give up their right to whine about politicians. |
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animalbirdfish
Joined: 04 Feb 2004
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| Posted: Mon May 29, 2006 10:20 pm Post subject: |
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Can you imagine the uproar if a politician in the US suggested that foreigners (with situations similar to ours here) be allowed to vote in elections there? I can see the ensuing tizzy now...
Or maybe they can vote in the US. What exactly are the requirements? |
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dogbert
Joined: 29 Jan 2003
Location: Killbox 90210
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| Posted: Mon May 29, 2006 11:09 pm Post subject: |
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| animalbirdfish wrote: |
Can you imagine the uproar if a politician in the US suggested that foreigners (with situations similar to ours here) be allowed to vote in elections there? I can see the ensuing tizzy now...
Or maybe they can vote in the US. What exactly are the requirements? |
There have been proposals to have limited voting rights somewhat like here in Korea now -- voting in local elections, basically.
Of course, the difference is that in Korea, a few hundred votes won't make much difference (even fewer than that, considering that they are for district elections and foreigners having the right to vote are spread around), whereas in the U.S., there are substantially more non-citizens (not to mention illegals), who would therefore potentially have a greater impact on election results. |
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Demophobe
Joined: 17 May 2004
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| Posted: Tue May 30, 2006 1:38 am Post subject: |
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Save voting, save not having to renew, save not having to get entry stamps, save being able to go through the ultra fast Korean line at Incheon when coming back into the country:)
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Minor things that have nothing to do with my in-country "rights", per say.
After doing some candidte homework, they all seem like the kind of guys I wouldn't want to vote for anyhow.  |
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TheUrbanMyth
Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired
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| Posted: Tue May 30, 2006 1:44 am Post subject: |
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| jinju wrote: |
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| I don't want to vote. I'll be happy when the fvckers stop blasting stupid election jingles to the tune of Arirang all over the neighborhood at 9 am though. |
Well, fine, that makes you politically apathetic so if you ever offer up a poliical opinion I will blast you for it. Politically apathetic people should give up their right to whine about politicians. |
What about people who don't have the right to vote such as E-1's E'2...and who offer up political opinions? Are you going to blast THEM for it?
As for politically apathetic people, maybe they are that way, because when you get right down to it, there's usually not a whole lot of difference between politicians. They're all lying, two-faced, power-hungry, money-grubbing used-car salesmen.
I would say most people who vote should be blasted as they are perperting this trend. |
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