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mithridates · Posted: Mon May 29, 2006 5:11 am Post subject:

First of all, that was a good 메롱. Nice going.

Ido has a little bit more Slavic vocabulary but not that much; most of its words are based on the six languages French, Italian, English, Spanish, German, and Russian with preference usually given in that order. That's why plurals end in -i for example. It would have been -s but since all verbs end in -s when conjugated that would just mess things up.
Yes, Zamenhof was Polish and he was also a Jew which meant that he was able to translate the Bible into Esperanto pretty quickly as he just read it in Hebrew and did the translation himself.

I've been spending a lot of time talking to fellow auxlangers and they all have their own opinion on which language should be supported but since it's not the auxlangers but normal people that decide which languages get used, I thought I would check with this poll and it seems that people prefer Lingua Franca Nova 3 to 1 in spite of the much smaller user base, and I assume because it's easier to understand at first sight, and maybe the appearance as well in how it uses c instead of k and less consonants which probably gives it a smoother feeling. There's actually another language called Interlingua that looks similar and is also easy to read at first sight but I don't support it because it's put so much effort into appearing natural that it keeps all the alternative spellings like ph for f, double c's, and other things that would make it a hard sell over in Asia. I see phoenetic spelling as an absolute requirement (so no supporting Interlingua) as well as no diacritics, adjectival agreement, object markers or changing proper names when they should be uses as is (so no supporting Esperanto).

I decided to write this post because recently I've been thinking about actually putting some money into one of the two but wasn't sure which one to go for, and I don't want to support something that regular people have a revulsion towards, as that would just be a waste of time, effort and money.

I know there are some artificial languages that use tones, but the only one I can think of is Ithkuil, and that one wasn't made to be easy, quite the opposite in fact. Around 18 vowels and 65 consonants plus five or so tones in that one.

thebum · Joined: 09 Jan 2005 Location: North Korea

Boodleheimer · Posted: Mon May 29, 2006 6:40 am Post subject: most retarded post ever

right, let me start by saying how ridiculous it is to ask this kind of question. of course most people would give the okay to the language that they understand with the most ease. 60+% of words in English come from Latin or Greek, so of course we recognize more words with a base in the Romance languages, and of course most people study French or Spanish in high school.

is an international language a language based on simplicity? is it based on artistry? convenience related to the way of thinking we were brought up in?

in most cases, people would say that it's based on simplicity. following this idea, grammatical constructions such as the case system, the Ancient Greek middle voice (most likely Ancient for a reason), and the complex verb systems of Hebrew would all be disposed of, despite the fact that these systems (and a good many languages have cases) would be simpler for native speakers of those languages.

International Languages have to be the most retarded thing ever. the most successful is Esperanto and who on earth speaks that? (besides, of course, egotistical jerks.) just learn more languages. one Romance language will open the whole Romance language world (which is precisely why so many people voted for the language with a smaller base). Czech got me through Poland just fine. Italian got me through Spain and Romania just fine. Hebrew even helped a tad in Egypt.

Diversify, don't compress.

mithridates · Posted: Mon May 29, 2006 6:59 am Post subject: Re: most retarded post ever

mithridates · Posted: Tue May 30, 2006 8:56 am Post subject:

Let's bump this thread up one more time to see if I can get any more votes. It seems pretty clear which language the average person prefers at first sight though. This has been pretty helpful though, as it helps me decide where I should put most of my effort.

flotsam · Joined: 28 Mar 2006

Who you callin' average, Annie?

mithridates · Posted: Tue May 30, 2006 8:11 pm Post subject:

Oh yeah. I mean non-conlanger or auxlanger. Sometimes over on auxlang they get so into the intricacies of a language that they forget that the point is to appeal to the...normal person.