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Butterfly



Joined: 02 Mar 2003
Location: Kuwait

PostPosted: Wed Jul 23, 2003 6:35 pm    Post subject: Re: love hotels Reply with quote

mongrel wrote:
some of these 'macho' korean men


Some of these would be 'macho' Dave's ESL cafe posters aren't much better to be frank. I'm so sick of reading this 'get the first punch in' 'no korean guy can take me' BILGE on this site which was originally intended for discussion of teaching, teacher related issues. It seems its expansion into new topics of interest has grown in some ways but degenerated into utter shite it others. I pity the Mods I really do.

Believe me young bucks, there is always someone better off, meaner and downright ****ing harder than you nomatter where you are in this big world, taekwondo black belt or not. Don't walk around thinking you can take anyone here or anywhere, you'll find a steel impliment in your heart. Keep your head down and your nose clean. Watch it.
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mishlert



Joined: 13 Mar 2003
Location: On the 3rd rock from the sun

PostPosted: Wed Jul 23, 2003 7:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree with the post stating that it would be better to shell out a few extra Won for an upscale motel. I doing so there will be no hassles, and you get all the extra goodies.

As for what happend, my guess is that the man knocking on the door was with his friends and were in the area of the motel. Upon seeing the two of you enter, they decided to "do something about this"(soju talking) and entered ready to kick some western @ss. Being as drunk as they were, as soon as she said she was alone they just stumbled out.

The owner theory makes no sense to me because he/she has a key to all rooms, and if the door was dead-bolted he/she would have told the woman inside and excuse as to why they had to change rooms. Once the door was opened all hell would have broken loose.

I do have to say that this is the first I've heard of anything like this happening in Korea in the 3 years I've been here.
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mongrel



Joined: 29 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Thu Jul 24, 2003 3:48 pm    Post subject: love hotels Reply with quote

butterfly, in case you hadn't realised this is the general discussion forum. It doesn't have to be about teaching. also, you clearly don't know what you're talking about. i couldn't fight my way out of a paper bag, but when my gf is being abused i'm not going to stand for it. you may be a spineless jellyfish, and that's ok if you can accept that. after 2 years of just turning the other cheek, or just ignoring it, it gets a bit much.
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kiwiboy_nz_99



Joined: 05 Jul 2003
Location: ...Enlightenment...

PostPosted: Sun Jul 27, 2003 7:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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you get the first smack into his head and keep going.. his 2 years of taekwondo is out of the window!!!
be agressive and fearless and rage he will back off!!!
then just street style fight man, charge that idiot and kick his ass!!
be quick though because if he does know martial arts you want to make sure he has no time to use it!


Tru enough bro, but you've been here 6 years right ( if I remember correctly ) so you know damn well that if there's a scrap here you are ALWAYS wrong if the cops get involved
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Butterfly



Joined: 02 Mar 2003
Location: Kuwait

PostPosted: Sun Jul 27, 2003 9:45 pm    Post subject: Re: love hotels Reply with quote

mongrel wrote:
butterfly, in case you hadn't realised this is the general discussion forum. It doesn't have to be about teaching. also, you clearly don't know what you're talking about. i couldn't fight my way out of a paper bag, but when my gf is being abused i'm not going to stand for it. you may be a spineless jellyfish, and that's ok if you can accept that. after 2 years of just turning the other cheek, or just ignoring it, it gets a bit much.


I am aware that this is an open forum and had not criticised that progression, just this knucklehead aspect of it.

When are you going to stop wittering on about your KOREAN girlfriend Mr. Mongrel? Nothing happens until it happens to you does it? - We all date Korean women mate, what you are talking about happens to everyone once or twice in a year, its dodgy and dangerous.

I would be guilty of the same bull if I told you of my six-foot well built frame. Unless forced into a corner Mongrel, I keep my head down and my nose clean. I suggest you do the same, you'll thank me one day.
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makushi



Joined: 08 Jun 2003

PostPosted: Sun Jul 27, 2003 10:29 pm    Post subject: Re: love hotels Reply with quote

Butterfly wrote:
Unless forced into a corner Mongrel, I keep my head down and my nose clean. I suggest you do the same, you'll thank me one day.


That is some very sound advice...too much of what said on this board and what happens at the clubs is fueled by pure ego and testosterone.

In reality, most altercations can and should be avoided without much effort.

However, if you do find yourself in a situation you can't escape without a fight, then fight hard, fast and dirty, and get your ass out of there before the cops or the bad guys friends show up.

Calling the cops, as I found from personal experience, is a complete waste of time and could endanger your stay here.
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mongrel



Joined: 29 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Mon Jul 28, 2003 6:59 pm    Post subject: love hotels Reply with quote

butterfly, you're right of course. i've just realised i do go on about the same old thing. ignoring people that disapprove is the best policy. in fact if you do this, it makes the person look even more foolish.
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Butterfly



Joined: 02 Mar 2003
Location: Kuwait

PostPosted: Mon Jul 28, 2003 8:32 pm    Post subject: Re: love hotels Reply with quote

mongrel wrote:
butterfly, you're right of course. i've just realised i do go on about the same old thing. ignoring people that disapprove is the best policy. in fact if you do this, it makes the person look even more foolish.


Well done for making this adjustment and taking a healthier approach, I for one am happy to know you are going to live longer Mongrel. Wink

And get used to it too....

A few years ago I dated a woman from the French Carribean when I lived in South London. I genuinely felt for my safety at times, the comments were fierce and threatening, to the point of where I stopped holding hands with her in the street. Nothing can be quite as aggressive as sexual competition between men, and your ethnicity (nomatter what it is) is an obvious choice of focus for people who are jealous of you because they don't have girlfriends, particularly if your girlfriend is of the same ethnicity as them. You should just pity them that's all since this is not a Korean phenomenon.

Whilst I have had these experiences in the street in Korea, I have also had confident, attached men offering to introduce me to their wives' friends. Why? Because they are confident, have their own partners thus there is no sexual competition. Incidentally, I politely rejected their offers not sure I could promise to be a gentleman Twisted Evil

Also, one more shot at this is that I saw a foreign guy on the subway a while back, whilst I was with a Korean girl myself, and watched him mauling a Korean woman he was with, grabbing her behind and kissing her with his tongue; it was really very vulgar - she didn't look entirely comfortable. Myself and my date were pretty anxious to get out of that carriage so as not to be associated with them in the minds of the other travellers and quite frankly I felt like punching him myself. I often see Western guys almost gloating in the street in a way, with their hands all over the girl like they are a posession or something. I don't know what you do in public Mongrel, but I think a good way of keeping your head down is not doing anything with your girlfriend that the Korean guys don't do. But this may already be the case.

Good Luck Mr. Mongrel, it gets better than this!
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weatherman



Joined: 14 Jan 2003
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Mon Jul 28, 2003 9:54 pm    Post subject: Re: love hotels Reply with quote

Butterfly wrote:
I often see Western guys almost gloating in the street in a way, with their hands all over the girl like they are a posession or something.


In all fairness, I have seen the locals doing this too, more than enough times. And it bothers me too. I don't really like it who ever does it.
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Butterfly



Joined: 02 Mar 2003
Location: Kuwait

PostPosted: Mon Jul 28, 2003 10:12 pm    Post subject: Re: love hotels Reply with quote

weatherman wrote:
I don't really like it who ever does it.


ditto.
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Asiablue



Joined: 15 Jan 2006

PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 9:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can personally attest to the fact that K-men, even in groups, will back down when confronted. It happened to me and I prevailed.

This is not to say I am confident of winning every time. Fight a Korean for any just reason, such as self-defense, and see how fast you are removed from the country.

What does help is making friends with Korean policemen. When some psycho (American in my case) fails to respect civilzed behavior, your police buddy might do the confronting for you. This usually results in said psycho's realization of how very far he is from home.

Never start a fight on someone's home turf. Homie's always have the advantage. That said, if push comes to shove, either be prepared to suffer the legal consequences, or do whatever has to be done to protect yourself.
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seoulsucker



Joined: 05 Mar 2006
Location: The Land of the Hesitant Cutoff

PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 5:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've never had a problem with any of the love hotels I've stayed at when I'm with my girl. Then again, I've never slummed it in a fleabag place, either. Most of the deluxe places only charge around 2���� for a 3 hour stay, which is usually plenty of time to get the deed done. Full nights run 8-10����, but they're worth it. Flat screen, PC, steam room, whirlpool bath, disco lights, etc.

Check out Mong or Noo-noo in Jongno, or Ezen in Sinchon...those places rock.

There was one occasion when I got some strange looks...during NFL's opening weekend, there were also tons of MLB games on TV as well. Me and a friend got a double room (2 beds) with 2 TVs, a projection screen, and a PC. I brought my Xbox and a handful of games, DVDs, etc.

We stayed up playing games and watching sports, drinking Hite pitchers and eating pizza. It was totally a "manly" thiing, but from an outside view, seeing two guys check into a love motel with suitcases full of god-knows-what must have been strange.
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mateomiguel



Joined: 16 May 2005

PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 5:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

way to resurrect a 3 year old thread Asiablue!
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billybrobby



Joined: 09 Dec 2004

PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 6:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh man, i hate this. here, i am, thinking i'm reading some breaking news, and then i find the thread is from 2003.
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Cheonmunka



Joined: 04 Jun 2004

PostPosted: Thu Mar 23, 2006 2:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Try being in the inside room with a booming voiced foot Samoan man banging on the door looking for his girlfriend....scary.
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