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Seoul, the subway, and the suburbs
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chrisOC2005



Joined: 19 Apr 2006

PostPosted: Sat Jun 03, 2006 10:14 am    Post subject: Seoul, the subway, and the suburbs Reply with quote

Hi everyone,

I'm currently in the hardcore phase of my Seoul job search. I was really set on living in central Seoul before, but I'm now getting some really nice offers from about 40-50 minutes by subway from the center (Suwon, Pyoncheon, someplace else on the west side).

I was just wondering how you guys fare with the subway. What are it's hours, in fact?

I mean, really, 40 minutes in a huge city is not far, but at the same time, if the subway stops at midnight and starts again at 5 like in so many cities, that can be a little annoying .. and after a 40 minutes ride into town, getting around after that can be a pain, too. I'm from LA, and I want that real, public transport city experience.

Do they offer year passes?

Thanks,

Chris
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WorldWide



Joined: 28 Apr 2006

PostPosted: Sat Jun 03, 2006 10:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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chrisOC2005



Joined: 19 Apr 2006

PostPosted: Sat Jun 03, 2006 11:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Okay, sufficiently feeling like an ass, here's a straight-forward question:

Are the time estimates on the SMRT website accurate?

http://www.smrt.co.kr/english_smrt/cyberstation_smrt/cyberstation.jsp

Chris
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heydelores



Joined: 24 Apr 2006

PostPosted: Sat Jun 03, 2006 2:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The times look pretty accurate to me.

Here's a link with the first and last train times listed:
http://www.seoulmetro.co.kr/english/train/timetable/sqtah001.html

Alternatively, you can use the "quick menu" on the main page:
http://www.seoulmetro.co.kr/english/index1.html

Click on "last train" and enter your location and destination, and it will list the last scheduled train for that route.
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SuperHero



Joined: 10 Dec 2003
Location: Superhero Hideout

PostPosted: Sat Jun 03, 2006 2:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

for the route I take everyday it's accurate.

There are no annual, monthly, or weekly passes. Instead you can get a t-money card which you charge when it runs out or if you can get a Korean credit card (can double as a t-money card) you'll automatically be billed every month.
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animalbirdfish



Joined: 04 Feb 2004

PostPosted: Sat Jun 03, 2006 3:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Depending on what you're looking for, the suburbs (Bundang, Pyeongcheon/Anyang, Ilsan) can offer good quality of life and comparatively fewer headaches. Of course, if it's nightclubs, bookstores and shopping you want, you might push for that central Seoul job.

When looking at the subway map, calculate two to three minutes between stations and you'll get a pretty fair guess on the time.
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RACETRAITOR



Joined: 24 Oct 2005
Location: Seoul, South Korea

PostPosted: Sat Jun 03, 2006 5:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I measure quality of life in this country based on how close you are to Seoul. Suwon doesn't look very far away, but after taking that trip every weekend, and being stuck overnight or going home early, it can get under your skin.
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Natalia



Joined: 10 Mar 2006

PostPosted: Sat Jun 03, 2006 5:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm in one of those suburbs. At first I didn't mind the commute, but now it is really annoying. I have a fifteen minute walk to the subway station, and always allow myself an hour to get into or out of Seoul. There are days when I wouldn't mind going to Seoul, but I just cannot be bothered.
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Tiger Beer



Joined: 07 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Sat Jun 03, 2006 8:37 pm    Post subject: Re: Seoul, the subway, and the suburbs Reply with quote

chrisOC2005 wrote:
Hi everyone,

I'm currently in the hardcore phase of my Seoul job search. I was really set on living in central Seoul before, but I'm now getting some really nice offers from about 40-50 minutes by subway from the center (Suwon, Pyoncheon, someplace else on the west side).

I was just wondering how you guys fare with the subway. What are it's hours, in fact?

I mean, really, 40 minutes in a huge city is not far, but at the same time, if the subway stops at midnight and starts again at 5 like in so many cities, that can be a little annoying .. and after a 40 minutes ride into town, getting around after that can be a pain, too. I'm from LA, and I want that real, public transport city experience.

Do they offer year passes?

Thanks,

Chris

Hours.. its closes around 11:30pm on weekends and 12:30pm on weekdays.. something like that. Then it opens up again around 5-6am.. can't recall exactly.. but something like that.

Fares are cheap though.. maybe equivalent to US$1 one-way.

For me, I live right in Seoul.. but I almost never go to the other side of Seoul.. just get really into wherever it is I'm living. I'm not sure how I'd fare if I were living in a Suwon or Pyeoncheon. But I know people who come up to Seoul from those places.. and its always kind of a big deal.. and they are always kind of stuck all night waiting for subways.. and often change mind about coming up as some weekends they can't be bothered by being bothered by it.
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Milwaukiedave



Joined: 02 Oct 2004
Location: Goseong

PostPosted: Sat Jun 03, 2006 8:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You also should figure at least 5 minutes for each transfer. That is not added into the times on the website when you look at how long it gets from point A to point B.

This will very of course depending on the station, how many lines it serves and the time of day.

Realistically I've been able to transfer at some stations in as little as 3 minutes but sometimes it takes as much as 10-15 minutes.

I just moved out to Incheon and we are a short bus ride from the subway station. We have yet to take the subway into Seoul, but my wife is trying it today. She says there is an express train on Line 1 so we'll see.
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ajgeddes



Joined: 28 Apr 2004
Location: Yongsan

PostPosted: Sat Jun 03, 2006 9:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I live in a suburb of Seoul, and it takes 15 minutes by bus (which runs every 5 minutes) to get to the closest main area of Seoul, and about 45 minutes to get to the furthest big area of Seoul. Buses run until 2AM also. It's only 15 minutes to two giant book stores. If you are looking for clothes shopping, there are a tonne of outlet stores and plenty other places to do shopping. It isn't the best for nightlife, but it isn't that bad at the same time. There are plenty of parks and there is much less dirty air. I also live right at a subway station, so if I want to use the subway, it takes me about 2 minutes to walk to the station. However, if you are single, it isn't the greatest place on Earth to live, but if that isn't an issue it is a really great place to live.

Oh yeah... I live in Bundang, on the yellow subway line.
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crystal



Joined: 04 May 2006

PostPosted: Sat Jun 03, 2006 9:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Milwaukiedave wrote:

I just moved out to Incheon and we are a short bus ride from the subway station. We have yet to take the subway into Seoul, but my wife is trying it today. She says there is an express train on Line 1 so we'll see.


There is an express line which stops at every second stop, or at all the main ones anyway. The only downside is it doesn't stop at my station so it takes me forty minutes to get into to Seoul.

The distance can be off-putting when it comes to whether or not to head into Seoul, a forty minute subway ride can be a bit irritating but it's really not all that big an obstacle if you really want to go in.
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VanIslander



Joined: 18 Aug 2003
Location: Geoje, Hadong, Tongyeong,... now in a small coastal island town outside Gyeongsangnamdo!

PostPosted: Sat Jun 03, 2006 9:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

RACETRAITOR wrote:
I measure quality of life in this country based on how close you are to Seoul.

I do too: as an inverse relationship.

It's got the shopping and events and foreign-filled bars one may want once a month or so. Now excuse me as I've got a bus to catch outta town 3:10 at the Nambu terminal. Next month back may be too soon.

To each their own.
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Milwaukiedave



Joined: 02 Oct 2004
Location: Goseong

PostPosted: Sat Jun 03, 2006 9:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

crystal wrote:
Milwaukiedave wrote:

I just moved out to Incheon and we are a short bus ride from the subway station. We have yet to take the subway into Seoul, but my wife is trying it today. She says there is an express train on Line 1 so we'll see.


There is an express line which stops at every second stop, or at all the main ones anyway. The only downside is it doesn't stop at my station so it takes me forty minutes to get into to Seoul.

The distance can be off-putting when it comes to whether or not to head into Seoul, a forty minute subway ride can be a bit irritating but it's really not all that big an obstacle if you really want to go in.


Crystal without devulging too much, can you tell me what subway stop your close to. I'm right smack in the middle between the Arts Center and Juan. Any help on buses connecting to the subway would be appreciated!
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crystal



Joined: 04 May 2006

PostPosted: Sat Jun 03, 2006 9:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Milwaukiedave wrote:
crystal wrote:
Milwaukiedave wrote:

I just moved out to Incheon and we are a short bus ride from the subway station. We have yet to take the subway into Seoul, but my wife is trying it today. She says there is an express train on Line 1 so we'll see.


There is an express line which stops at every second stop, or at all the main ones anyway. The only downside is it doesn't stop at my station so it takes me forty minutes to get into to Seoul.

The distance can be off-putting when it comes to whether or not to head into Seoul, a forty minute subway ride can be a bit irritating but it's really not all that big an obstacle if you really want to go in.


Crystal without devulging too much, can you tell me what subway stop your close to. I'm right smack in the middle between the Arts Center and Juan. Any help on buses connecting to the subway would be appreciated!


I live in Bucheon which is on line 1 too, just a little closer to Seoul. I don't know exactly which stops the express line stops at, just that there is one, sorry I can't be of more help
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