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flotsam
Joined: 28 Mar 2006
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You know you're Korean when...
...you cringe in embarrassment at the "cosmopolitan" antics of the Red Devils abroad.
A to the I to the G to the double-OO, bro. |
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indytrucks
Joined: 09 Apr 2003
Location: The Shelf
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| Posted: Mon Jun 05, 2006 8:09 pm Post subject: |
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| eamo wrote: |
This quote from a female Korean fan in Germany sums up the attitude of 95 percent of Korean fans.
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| "This isn't like 2002," she added. "I hope the next World Cup is in Korea." |
Yeah. I wish every World Cup could be in Korea. Because it's such a footballing nation........  |
That made me laugh as well. Maybe every World Cup from now on can be in Korea. Maybe Korea can start their own World Cup where they play against the Invisible Man XI and win every match 5-0. |
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Hollywoodaction
Joined: 02 Jul 2004
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| Posted: Mon Jun 05, 2006 8:52 pm Post subject: |
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They got a whupping?Excellent....will it be reshown though??I guess not..
Get those radishes ready Korea!! |
I told my wife, 'Watch the African players' before the game began. I'm a big fan of the African style of playing. It's very difficult to read because African players constantly change pace when they hold the ball. It's makes it very unpredictable. It truly is beautiful to watch when they play against players that tend to run in straight lines at full throttle (like many players in Korea). |
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jacl
Joined: 31 Oct 2005
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| Posted: Mon Jun 05, 2006 10:32 pm Post subject: |
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jacl
Joined: 31 Oct 2005
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| Posted: Mon Jun 05, 2006 10:39 pm Post subject: |
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| rothkowitz wrote: |
They got a whupping?Excellent....will it be reshown though??I guess not..
Get those radishes ready Korea!! |
I told my wife, 'Watch the African players' before the game began. I'm a big fan of the African style of playing. It's very difficult to read because African players constantly change pace when they hold the ball. It's makes it very unpredictable. It truly is beautiful to watch when they play against players that tend to run in straight lines at full throttle (like many players in Korea). |
I saw some of the game and did notice the skill.
We had a Japanese-Canadian play for my team when I was in under 16? Can't remember. He was good. Really skillful. I think Japanese players are better. I played select and they selected to me to smell the chalk on the side lines. Even when I was in under 12. I was lucky enough, however, to play in OT in the provincials because no more subs were allowed and I scored two goals. Weird. It wasn't sudden death OT. It was two 10-minute halves. The two luckiest goals I ever had. Perfect crosses. The teams I played on were always mixed as far as nationalities are concerned. English, German, Japanese. Go figure. Go Canada, go. The best players were always of English or German decent whose parents were born from said countries. The best player in town was born in England. He was the striker.
Korea's fucking boring to watch. |
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rapier
Joined: 16 Feb 2003
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| Posted: Tue Jun 06, 2006 5:40 am Post subject: Re: Blah |
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rapier wrote:
African sides have unrivalled skill and ability.
Unrivalled? Please... |
Did you ever see George Weah play? Watch his goal for AC Milan against Verona in 1995 and I guarantee you will see some fairly [i]unrivalled skill and ability.[/i] |
I meant..in my opinion..African players have unrivalled skill, although their countries lack the needed consistent development of the sport, and as national sides they lack international exp.
http://www.newstatesman.com/200605290007
Something else that teams usually need to win the World Cup is home advantage, and in 2010 the tournament will be held in Africa for the first time.
"while African national teams have been failing to live up to Pel�'s expectations, individual African players have been making huge advances" |
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Roch
Joined: 24 Apr 2003
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Tue Jun 06, 2006 7:46 pm Post subject: |
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ticktock wrote:
Ok, so am not a follower of football but I was fortunate enough to get free tickets to watch the match so I decided to go along anyway. Although am not an expert even I can see that the Koreans were playing a shoddy game and really letting their side down. Like myself, alot of Koreans agreed after the game that Ghana deserved to win.
HOWEVER, I have to point out that during the playing of the national anthems, contrary to what was shown on TV, the red devils did not make a huge 'dae han min guk' racket during the Ghana part and kept quiet apart from the silly few but then it was the same when the Korean anthem played where few drunk ghanaians (sp?) were still singing and chanting their own cheers. I really don't think all the stick you guys are giving the Korean fans are completely justified based on what you saw on TV alone.
And before you feel compelled to flame me no, am not a Red devil myself and have no real interest in football. I just thinks it's a bit unfair for Korean to get so much bashing for some misunderstanding that is based on what people saw on telly.
Why did you go and spoil this orgy of Korea bashing? You mean the Koreans didnt throw bananas and jeer through Ghana's anthem? You mean they DIDNT behave like many fans in Europe who do throw bananas at black players, make monkey sounds and jeer foreign anthems? See, now you just ruined the fun. Dont you realize these guys want to assume that Korean fans are the worst fans in the world? Its more fun like that for these bitter clowns
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No, that's where you're wrong. It's still fun.
Why were the announcers talking during Ghana's national anthem? Hmm?
Why didn't they show Ghana's lineup? Hmm?
Anyway, at least the Korean players show class. That's what counts.
Bandwagons are funny. If Korea starts winning, maybe a lot of us will jump right back on it. Sports are funny that way.
I think it would be interesting to see America do well. I can't understand how they're ranked 5th in the FIFA standings. Although, I must confess, I don't really know much about any teams and they're capabilities except that Brazil, Germany, Argentina, and Italy are usually goo (and some others).
To me, it's not a patriotic thing. It's more of an interesting observance thing.
I was told how Korea used home advantange the last time and heard about some calls that went their way. That really sucks. The one underlying thing about the World Cup is corruption of sorts, I think. I mean, how the hell did France win in '98? I don't think Korea have the skill.
And why the hell doesn't Canada get off their collective butts and produce a winning team? And I've heard that Mexico aren't very good and they're ranked what? 3rd or something in the FIFA standings? I guess those standing are probably BS.
The way I see it right now, Togo are virtual underdogs. It's more fun to cheer for underdogs. So, I'll probably go back on what I said earlier and cheer for Korea against France. Switzerland and Togo? No. I'm just a bystander though. I'm going to cheer for the States, the Netherlands, and England where possible.
GO TOGO, GO! GO, TOGO GO! |
That the States is ranked at # 5 is a joke: The U.S. should be ranked around number 20 or number 25.
While we are on this topic, the U.S. has a few very good players and quite a few pretty good ones. If they work their backsides off, they MIGHT make it to the Second Round. We'll see, eh. |
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Hollywoodaction
Joined: 02 Jul 2004
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| Posted: Tue Jun 06, 2006 8:04 pm Post subject: |
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Guardian article about clueless K-fans in Deutschland right now
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South Korean fans ask 'Where's the party?'
By Peter Rutherford
Kim Min-jung, whose brother is part of a large Korean student population in Cologne, was awe-struck by the city's magnificent cathedral outside the station but wondered where the party was.
"No one joins in when we sing 'Dae-Han-Min-Kuk'," said Kim, who could not resist clapping the remainder of the Korean fans' signature chant.
"People kept telling us to keep it down on the train. It was strange they didn't want to enjoy themselves."
She beamed as she recalled the atmosphere in Seoul four years ago when tens of thousands packed the streets to watch their team on huge screens.
"This isn't like 2002," she added. "I hope the next World Cup is in Korea."
A taxi driver sporting mini German flags on his car outside the station also seemed non-plussed by the Koreans arrival.
"No Korea referee this time," he said. "They go home early."
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Wow, she's clueless about so many things. |
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funkywinkerbeans
Joined: 17 Feb 2006
Location: seoul
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| Posted: Tue Jun 06, 2006 10:27 pm Post subject: |
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The Korean girl in Cologne had probably watched the commercial that shows all the Europeans in a bar jumping up and down when Korea scores a goal. After watching the commercial upteen times, she heads to Europe to see all the Europeans chanting and roaring for Korea. She arrives in the beautiful city of Cologne and is dumbfounded when the Germans and other tourists don't jump in and start cheering Korea's chant. She can't understand it because the commercial showed that the Europeans love Korean Football. It has to be true she thinks. What's wrong with these Europeans. Don't they understand that in Seoul millions of people cheer for Korea in the streets. Obviously the only solution is to have the World Cup in Korea because Koreans know how to cheer for Korea. Who cares about all the other countries playing in the World Cup.
The lady is unbelievable! |
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rothkowitz
Joined: 27 Apr 2006
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| Posted: Tue Jun 06, 2006 10:55 pm Post subject: |
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Ignorant slapper....its not like Brits would expect Koreans to chant
You're gonna get,you're goona get,you're gonna get your f-ing head kicked in"
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Hollywoodaction
Joined: 02 Jul 2004
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| Posted: Tue Jun 06, 2006 11:23 pm Post subject: |
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The Korean girl in Cologne had probably watched the commercial that shows all the Europeans in a bar jumping up and down when Korea scores a goal. After watching the commercial upteen times, she heads to Europe to see all the Europeans chanting and roaring for Korea. She arrives in the beautiful city of Cologne and is dumbfounded when the Germans and other tourists don't jump in and start cheering Korea's chant. She can't understand it because the commercial showed that the Europeans love Korean Football. It has to be true she thinks. What's wrong with these Europeans. Don't they understand that in Seoul millions of people cheer for Korea in the streets. Obviously the only solution is to have the World Cup in Korea because Koreans know how to cheer for Korea. Who cares about all the other countries playing in the World Cup.
The lady is unbelievable! |
Not really. She simply doesn't understand the cultural differences. Based on what I know (from traveling in Germany and talking with my German friends), I'd say that Germans don't tend to impose themselves onto others, nor to they see or need the celebratory atmosphere of the world cup as an opportunity to express themselves freely or gain international recognition (they already have it). Besides, the opening ceremony is in one week. |
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trigger123
Joined: 08 Sep 2004
Location: TALKING TO STRANGERS, IN A BETTER PLACE
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| Posted: Wed Jun 07, 2006 1:56 am Post subject: |
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ghana and korea are average sides who have a couple of decent players but not enough to progress far. footy chat over.
there is a small but crucial difference between being proud of your nation and patriotic and nationalistic. you could discuss all day about where your 'average' korean falls on that scale. but, getting a online holier-than-thou lecture from yer 'average' expat on why korea is sooo nationalistic and how them and their country is sooo more enlightened is like listening to bush tell us about the benefits of invading other countries...
balls.
just because they have the brought the drums and bongoes, and are waving their lovely flags, do you think the ghanians, or the angolans or any other minor footballing nation, doesn't have pride bordering on nationalism? that there aren't some of them who despise their rivals? that they don't have racist names for their footballing contemporaries?
i'm honest. i know england does. amongst all the st.george's crosses and face paint, there is still the war mentality, the 'stick it to johnny foreigner' mindset. we'll fight anyone us. shag your women and drink your beer. yep, it's a festival of football, but it's also a lot of other things too.
when it comes to sport and nationality, EVERY fan is nationalistic. do you seriously think that the ghanians are any less nationalistic than the koreans? sport, and particularly the currency of football, reflects the stature of a nation more than anything. apart from a bloody big army that is. which is why north korea against iran would have been the tie of the tournament |
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trigger123
Joined: 08 Sep 2004
Location: TALKING TO STRANGERS, IN A BETTER PLACE
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The Korean girl in Cologne had probably watched the commercial that shows all the Europeans in a bar jumping up and down when Korea scores a goal. After watching the commercial upteen times, she heads to Europe to see all the Europeans chanting and roaring for Korea. She arrives in the beautiful city of Cologne and is dumbfounded when the Germans and other tourists don't jump in and start cheering Korea's chant. She can't understand it because the commercial showed that the Europeans love Korean Football. It has to be true she thinks. What's wrong with these Europeans. Don't they understand that in Seoul millions of people cheer for Korea in the streets. Obviously the only solution is to have the World Cup in Korea because Koreans know how to cheer for Korea. Who cares about all the other countries playing in the World Cup.
The lady is unbelievable! |
Not really. She simply doesn't understand the cultural differences. Based on what I know (from traveling in Germany and talking with my German friends), I'd say that Germans don't tend to impose themselves onto others, nor to they see or need the celebratory atmosphere of the world cup as an opportunity to express themselves freely or gain international recognition (they already have it). Besides, the opening ceremony is in one week. |
that's not true!! of course they do! why are they hosting it then? |
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jinju
Joined: 22 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Wed Jun 07, 2006 3:41 am Post subject: |
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| trigger123 wrote: |
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The Korean girl in Cologne had probably watched the commercial that shows all the Europeans in a bar jumping up and down when Korea scores a goal. After watching the commercial upteen times, she heads to Europe to see all the Europeans chanting and roaring for Korea. She arrives in the beautiful city of Cologne and is dumbfounded when the Germans and other tourists don't jump in and start cheering Korea's chant. She can't understand it because the commercial showed that the Europeans love Korean Football. It has to be true she thinks. What's wrong with these Europeans. Don't they understand that in Seoul millions of people cheer for Korea in the streets. Obviously the only solution is to have the World Cup in Korea because Koreans know how to cheer for Korea. Who cares about all the other countries playing in the World Cup.
The lady is unbelievable! |
Not really. She simply doesn't understand the cultural differences. Based on what I know (from traveling in Germany and talking with my German friends), I'd say that Germans don't tend to impose themselves onto others, nor to they see or need the celebratory atmosphere of the world cup as an opportunity to express themselves freely or gain international recognition (they already have it). Besides, the opening ceremony is in one week. |
that's not true!! of course they do! why are they hosting it then? |
The Germans dont what? Impose themelves on others? Perhaps German expansionism which lasted well over 10 centuries and was capped off by World War 2 was what, a blip on the radar? Because as we all know the germans are a peace loving, happy go lucky folk who leave others alone? |
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Zulu
Joined: 28 Apr 2006
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| Posted: Wed Jun 07, 2006 5:07 am Post subject: |
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The Korean girl in Cologne had probably watched the commercial that shows all the Europeans in a bar jumping up and down when Korea scores a goal. After watching the commercial upteen times, she heads to Europe to see all the Europeans chanting and roaring for Korea. She arrives in the beautiful city of Cologne and is dumbfounded when the Germans and other tourists don't jump in and start cheering Korea's chant. She can't understand it because the commercial showed that the Europeans love Korean Football. It has to be true she thinks. What's wrong with these Europeans. Don't they understand that in Seoul millions of people cheer for Korea in the streets. Obviously the only solution is to have the World Cup in Korea because Koreans know how to cheer for Korea. Who cares about all the other countries playing in the World Cup.
The lady is unbelievable! |
You said it. I'm sure some of them actually wonder why Europeans in awe of awesome Korean brainpower don't come running up to them and ask "Korean man! Korean woman! How DO you do it?" just like in the TV ad.
The problem is so many people here actually believe their own advertizing. I realize their media are largely to blame, but still. Good for a laugh anyway I guess. |
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