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deadman · Joined: 27 May 2006 Location: Suwon

An article from the DEBKAfile (Israeli)

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happeningthang · Joined: 26 Apr 2003

So what?? Should sympathy be given on racial/party lines now??

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daskalos · Joined: 19 May 2006 Location: The Road to Ithaca

And of course there wouldn't have been a 1948 war if the surrounding Arab nations had accepted the U.N. partition -- if they had, they would today be in possession of far more of what they call Palestine than they can ever hope for in any foreseeable future.

And I'm not sure you could convince Britain that the area was pacified during the years of they held the Mandate. The U.N. got involved because Britain decided to wash its hands of the whole bloody mess.

But yeah, it does take a certain unbelievable amount of chutzpah for Israelis to cry about the trauma of being forciby evicted from their homes.

Big_Bird · Posted: Mon Jun 05, 2006 9:18 pm Post subject:

daskalos · Joined: 19 May 2006 Location: The Road to Ithaca

The partition was made roughly along lines of populations. The areas ceded to the Jews were areas in which they were the majority, living on land legally acquired over the preceding hundred years or so. The Jews may have immigrated to the area on the basis of their tenuous, not to say fanatical religious claims, but the partition took into account who was there then.

Historians are certain of lots of things, but how the Israelis would have behaved had they been allowed peace is little more than a game of what-if conjecture, and we can't judge people today on the basis of what we're pretty sure they would have done.

And if those who decry the 1948 partition of Palestine would like to put their ideas into practice, they could raise their voices to stop the coming U.N.-mandated carving away of Kosovo from Serbia, also being done on the basis of population, without regard to who once owned the land. The difference here being, of course, that prior to the 1948 partition, there had never been a sovereign nation of Palestine nor even, I'd venture to say, any person on the planet who thought of himself as Palestinian. "Palestinians" were created by the actions of Israel and the reactions of her Arab neighbors, to whom the Arabs in Palestine were more important as a political tool than as a People, or as people.

Whether or not the partition was a good idea, whether or not the World had the right to impose that solution, it's done. Unless the world changes an awful lot, Israel is not going away. The Palestinians can either nurse their hatred and die of it, or they can come to the table without bombs strapped inside their coats to get the best deal they can, like any other people that's ever gotten its butt kicked in a war.