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| Do you wanna get laid or don't you? Splash the cash. Pay up or shut up! |
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patchy1
Joined: 01 Jun 2006
Location: No, not patchy's sock. New account because old account got mucked up.
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Which would be what exactly? A broadening of horizons for a group of isolated indigenous people who in turn broaden the horizons of the group who came to live with them? A break from tradition?
Awesome. |
Yes, I am sure all those naive Filipina girls think it was all worth it. |
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n3ptne
Joined: 14 Sep 2005
Location: Poh*A*ng City
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| Posted: Tue Jun 06, 2006 12:44 am Post subject: |
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Patchy: We aren't there, we're here, and I try, on a daily basis, to show these people a flawless exterior (minus how much I jaywalk), that I am a person of good standing and as good as them at anything they can do if not better at some of them, and that there is a different way to live your life if you choose it by very virtue of the fact that I choose not to live my life like theirs.
I hope on a broader social level that having foreigners in this country is expediating the process of liberalization and social change. |
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patchy1
Joined: 01 Jun 2006
Location: No, not patchy's sock. New account because old account got mucked up.
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| Posted: Tue Jun 06, 2006 12:46 am Post subject: |
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Patchy: We aren't there, we're here, and I try, on a daily basis, to show these people a flawless exterior (minus how much I jaywalk), that I am a person of good standing and as good as them at anything they can do if not better at some of them, and that there is a different way to live your life if you choose it by very virtue of the fact that I choose not to live my life like theirs.
I hope on a broader social level that having foreigners in this country is expediating the process of liberalization and social change. |
Yes, I am sure that the young Korean guys think they are doing the same thing in the Philippines.
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n3ptne
Joined: 14 Sep 2005
Location: Poh*A*ng City
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| Posted: Tue Jun 06, 2006 12:47 am Post subject: |
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Patchy... they are students who live in boarding houses not highly paid teachers who are being asked to take a place among society. Nor do I see how they are negatively disrupting society nor how it is a valid allusion to debate the topic being discussed. Did you ever take logic?
I am sure the Western foreigners who are there, who are also teaching English, are doing just that.
God damn you're an idiot. Go back to Holocaust Denying. |
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patchy1
Joined: 01 Jun 2006
Location: No, not patchy's sock. New account because old account got mucked up.
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/israel/Story/0,2763,1112442,00.html
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"Chinese workers in Israel sign no-sex contract
Conal Urquhart in Tel Aviv
Wednesday December 24, 2003
The Guardian
Chinese workers at a company in Israel have been forced to agree not to have sex with or marry Israelis as a condition of getting a job.
According to a contact they are required to sign, male workers may not have any contact with Israeli women - including prostitutes, a police spokesman, Rafi Yaffe, said.
He said there was nothing illegal about ...... |
Perhaps hagwons should ask foreign teachers to do this. What's good enough for Chinese people is good enough for westerners. |
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flotsam
Joined: 28 Mar 2006
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| Posted: Tue Jun 06, 2006 2:03 am Post subject: |
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/israel/Story/0,2763,1112442,00.html
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"Chinese workers in Israel sign no-sex contract
Conal Urquhart in Tel Aviv
Wednesday December 24, 2003
The Guardian
Chinese workers at a company in Israel have been forced to agree not to have sex with or marry Israelis as a condition of getting a job.
According to a contact they are required to sign, male workers may not have any contact with Israeli women - including prostitutes, a police spokesman, Rafi Yaffe, said.
He said there was nothing illegal about ...... |
Perhaps hagwons should ask foreign teachers to do this. What's good enough for Chinese people is good enough for westerners. |
Patchy darling, since you seem to support this scrumptious (anti-)social contract, are you willing to sign a document wherein you commit to only associate with other barking xenophobic misanthropes? |
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SPINOZA
Joined: 10 Jun 2005
Location: $eoul
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| Posted: Tue Jun 06, 2006 2:41 am Post subject: Re: Dating question for guys |
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About paying. Who pays?
I know it's not just Korea where this happens, but at least in the WEst the lady will pay or contribute sometimes, perhaps often. But here the women are cheap-ass devils in my experience.
I'm naturally averse to excessive spending (a posh-sounding euphemism for a cheap bstd) but I also really want to please the lady. In all other respects, she's an absolute gem, but she really does take the fookin' piss when it comes to paying for stuff. She says it's the custom here for the guy to pay pretty much 90% of the time. I knew that, but it's unfair and expensive and sometimes it makes a guy feel like he's being used. My name's SPIN - not Donald Trump!
Anyway, chaps, your verdict please......(see poll) |
Didn't you say before that you were planning to marry your girlfriend in England once you finished your teaching stint here in Korea?
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Well, I'm impressed that you recalled that. But your recollection isn't 100% accurate. I said that my plans - when I first came to Korea - were to go back home after a couple of years and I had silly fantasies of marrying my ex-girlfriend (the relationship was over but I wasn't over her). But that all changed. First, I'll probably stay in Korea longer than I first imagined and, secondly, I wasn't expecting to get Yellow Fever (I actually hate that expression) so badly. I never considered that I might fall in love with Korean women. In fact, when I first came, I yearned to date western women. Korean girls are (obviously) far more numerous and there are many pretty ones that float Spin's boat.
btw, when this lady and I dated for the first time, it was her that initiated it. She asked me out and yet I did most of the paying. I don't care anymore. She's great company and the occasional act of kindness (so far as purchases are concerned at least) is enough. It's not like I'm short of money. Anyway, taking a bird out and paying for 80% of the stuff is still cheaper than going out to Hongdae/Itaewon and getting pissed-up with the boys! |
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Satori
Joined: 09 Dec 2005
Location: Above it all
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| Posted: Tue Jun 06, 2006 5:07 am Post subject: Re: Dating question for guys |
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| And with more and more of these teachers coming to Korea these days, it's becoming somewhat of a problem. |
Indeed, a problem for Korean guys who don't like the idea of thier beautiful and pure Korean princesses being sullied by the evil white man. Funny thing is they seem to like it. I've noticed that Korean girls who've dated one white guy often tend to go on to date more and many of them don't ever go back to thier native kind. Must be something yummy going on there eh patchy-boy? 
I personally think Korean women and western guys are a match made in heaven, the chemistry is just so explosive. At least that's been my experience anyway... |
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n3ptne
Joined: 14 Sep 2005
Location: Poh*A*ng City
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| Posted: Tue Jun 06, 2006 6:01 am Post subject: |
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Patchy... I won't kid myself and say that you never had sex. Though the mental images of how the act went down are quite disturbing considering your track history.
In many ways it isn't possible to truly connect with other people without getting naked and banging them. It isn't entirely the act itself that matters, it what accompanies it that does.
Whats the problem with sex? |
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patchy1
Joined: 01 Jun 2006
Location: No, not patchy's sock. New account because old account got mucked up.
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| It's the same type of negative social effects as a whole bunch of Korean males students going to the Philippines to learn English and leaving a trail of unwanted Filipina girlfriends behind. |
It's hardly a serious social problem now is it? Face it, you just don't like the idea of whitey porking Korean girls. |
What's wrong with thinking like that, if that's what you think I do? Many people think like that around the world: not wanting foreign contract workers to have relations with people of their own country:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/israel/Story/0,2763,1112442,00.html |
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patchy1
Joined: 01 Jun 2006
Location: No, not patchy's sock. New account because old account got mucked up.
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| Posted: Tue Jun 06, 2006 6:55 am Post subject: |
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Patchy... I won't kid myself and say that you never had sex. Though the mental images of how the act went down are quite disturbing considering your track history.
In many ways it isn't possible to truly connect with other people without getting naked and banging them. It isn't entirely the act itself that matters, it what accompanies it that does.
Whats the problem with sex? |
Why don't you ask these people?
http://www.guardian.co.uk/israel/Story/0,2763,1112442,00.html
Besides, these people are getting 3 billion dollars annually from the USA. They've got more reason to be accountable for not having an open policy to foreigners than Koreans, even though it's well-known the Zionist lobby advocate a pro-immigration policy for the USA.
Jewish particularism
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I have no dislike for Jews for their ethnic particularism. I am critical of Jews for their hypocrisy, i.e. preaching universalism to the world and reserving particularism for themselves. Much Jew-hatred in the world stems from this.
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This is the country with apartheid problems, not Korea.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/g2/story/0,,1703244,00.html |
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bigverne
Joined: 12 May 2004
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| Posted: Tue Jun 06, 2006 6:56 am Post subject: |
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| What's wrong with thinking like that, if that's what you think I do? |
From a personal point of view, it demonstrates an extreme insecurity. I can bet that if you were having a fulfilling relationship with a female (Korean or otherwise) you would not give a crap about other people's consenting relationships.
In the bigger picture, objecting to people of other races engaging in consenting relationships with Korean women is simply racist.
And stop trying to spuriously link this to the treatment of foreign workers in Israel. That's entirely irrelevant to the situation in Korea.
Stop caring about other people's sex lives and concentrate on your own. You'll be much happier. |
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endo
Joined: 14 Mar 2004
Location: Seoul...my home
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| Posted: Tue Jun 06, 2006 8:38 am Post subject: |
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| It's the same type of negative social effects as a whole bunch of Korean males students going to the Philippines to learn English and leaving a trail of unwanted Filipina girlfriends behind. |
It's hardly a serious social problem now is it? Face it, you just don't like the idea of whitey porking Korean girls. |
What's wrong with thinking like that, if that's what you think I do? Many people think like that around the world: not wanting foreign contract workers to have relations with people of their own country:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/israel/Story/0,2763,1112442,00.html |
Correct me if i'm wrong, but isn't this a policy of a company and not the Israeli government itself.
"An Israeli lawyer who did not want to be named said while the contract might appear legal, it would be rejected if challenged in court."
It's not a government policy, it's a company one. Nevertheless, it's racist and I don't like it.
Face it man, many Korean guys have a complex with Korean women dating Western men.
White men have had issue with blacks dating caucasian females for years and years.
It's a dick thing and it hurts one's pride. |
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PaperTiger
Joined: 31 May 2005
Location: Ulaanbataar
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| Posted: Wed Jun 07, 2006 4:46 am Post subject: |
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| It's the same type of negative social effects as a whole bunch of Korean males students going to the Philippines to learn English and leaving a trail of unwanted Filipina girlfriends behind. |
Seems to me that Korean guys are more famous for their patronage of Philippino hookers rather their torrid romances with "naive" pinays. Gee, why is it all these hard-working male Korean uni students going to the Phillipines to study English come back speaking almost no English? Could they be acting as horribly as your foreign boogeyman while they're over there???
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| The teacher who wrote that message may have not been referring specifically to the two cases of alleged abuse. The two teachers deny their guilt, as far as I am aware. It could be that the whole thing happening close to each other in time and both at a place where foreign teachers commonly are to be found may have just been the spark to get people looking into and discussing the whole foreign teacher thing. Their opinions about foreign teachers may not be based on what happened or allegedly happened at the two English Villages, but on general impressions that have been formed over a period of time. |
Okay. General impressions? This is nothing but a big, rotten crate of SOUR GRAPES and I defy you to prove differently. I'm sorry if a bunch of lazy crybabies who slept through their English language classes or didn't even bother to attend feel jilted because no one will offer them the same money as a native speaker to teach English...but guess what? Who made that system? Who set up a structure that supports all these people you're so willing cast aspersions upon based on "general impressions"? KOREANS. Parents, goverment officials, business owners, and Korean education officials...not foreign teachers. If you want to blame anyone for for this "foreigner teacher situation" look no further than your fellow Koreans. Just know, most people who studied a foreign language anywhere were usually instructed by a native speaker. All eight of my French instructors were native speakers.
You're willing to admit that the claim this person made has absolutely no merit, but based on your seething hatred of foreigners who will ultimately be granted salaries out of your reach, you feel that there is some necessity for the this "whole foreign teacher thing" to be investigated? Well, golly gee whiz...I nominate YOU Patches to conduct the unbiased and in-depth investigation, perhaps you can cooperate with that twisted fiend that wrote that slanderous tripe on the KTU website...if by some longshot YOU ARE NOT THE SAME PERSON.
How exactly do you propose that Korea can monitor and regulate the quality of foreign teachers AND meet the consumer markets rabid demand for English teachers? Where are all these highly qualified Korean nationals whose Engish skills are on par with a native speaker? Why is it that so many Korean-owned businesses masquerading as educational facilities have turned their back on these teeming masses of Koreans educators who just happen to be qualified to teach English and are fully fluent???? They simply don't exist. Go cry on somebody else's shoulder, cupcake. |
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PaperTiger
Joined: 31 May 2005
Location: Ulaanbataar
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| Posted: Wed Jun 07, 2006 4:56 am Post subject: |
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| It's the same type of negative social effects as a whole bunch of Korean males students going to the Philippines to learn English and leaving a trail of unwanted Filipina girlfriends behind. |
Seems to me that Korean guys are more famous for their patronage of Philippino hookers rather their torrid romances with "naive" pinays. Gee, why is it all these hard-working male Korean uni students going to the Phillipines to study English come back speaking almost no English? Could they be acting as horribly as your foreign boogeyman while they're over there???
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| The teacher who wrote that message may have not been referring specifically to the two cases of alleged abuse. The two teachers deny their guilt, as far as I am aware. It could be that the whole thing happening close to each other in time and both at a place where foreign teachers commonly are to be found may have just been the spark to get people looking into and discussing the whole foreign teacher thing. Their opinions about foreign teachers may not be based on what happened or allegedly happened at the two English Villages, but on general impressions that have been formed over a period of time. |
Okay. General impressions? This is nothing but a big, rotten crate of SOUR GRAPES and I defy you to prove differently. I'm sorry if a bunch of lazy crybabies who slept through their English language classes or didn't even bother to attend feel jilted because no one will offer them the same money as a native speaker to teach English...but guess what? Who made that system? Who set up a structure that supports all these people you're so willing cast aspersions upon based on "general impressions"? KOREANS. Parents, goverment officials, business owners, and Korean education officials...not foreign teachers. If you want to blame anyone for for this "foreigner teacher situation" look no further than your fellow Koreans. Just know, most people who studied a foreign language anywhere were usually instructed by a native speaker. All eight of my French instructors were native speakers.
You're willing to admit that the claim this person made has absolutely no merit, but based on your seething hatred of foreigners who will ultimately be granted salaries out of your reach, you feel that there is some necessity for the this "whole foreign teacher thing" to be investigated? Well, golly gee whiz...I nominate YOU Patches to conduct the unbiased and in-depth investigation, perhaps you can cooperate with that twisted fiend that wrote that slanderous tripe on the KTU website...if by some longshot YOU ARE NOT THE SAME PERSON.
How exactly do you propose that Korea can monitor and regulate the quality of foreign teachers AND meet the consumer markets rabid demand for English teachers? Where are all these highly qualified Korean nationals whose Engish skills are on par with a native speaker? Why is it that so many Korean-owned businesses masquerading as educational facilities have turned their back on these teeming masses of Koreans educators who just happen to be qualified to teach English and are fully fluent???? They simply don't exist. Go cry on somebody else's shoulder, cupcake. |
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