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kingplaya4
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 Posted: Sat Jun 03, 2006 7:09 pm Post subject: Teaching EFL |
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I am a certifed teacher, but in History not in EFL, can someone please direct me to a thread that gives some good tips on how to teach English. I went to the Teacher training board, but it is a mess and mostly asks about certification.
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SPINOZA
Joined: 10 Jun 2005
Location: $eoul
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That's an extremely broad enquiry. What level, what age, do you require tips for?
Do CELTA.
Might not be necessary if you're a certified teacher, but it's an introduction. Surf the net for EFL materials/games and get ideas from them. |
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kingplaya4
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| Posted: Mon Jun 05, 2006 9:50 am Post subject: |
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Bumping this, sorry have been busy and haven't gotten to the boards in a few days.
Age is elementary to middle school. I really have no idea what level they're at, I'm not there yet, but they're kids in Daegu if this helps. |
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ttompatz
Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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| Posted: Mon Jun 05, 2006 4:59 pm Post subject: |
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| kingplaya4 wrote: |
Bumping this, sorry have been busy and haven't gotten to the boards in a few days.
Age is elementary to middle school. I really have no idea what level they're at, I'm not there yet, but they're kids in Daegu if this helps. |
Elementary to middle school... sounds like an afternoon/evening hakwan.
Don't worry too much about real teaching... edutainer is more along the line.
Standard Korean practise is "DO 2 PAGES every day". Be friendly with the kids. Think of yourself as a big purple dinosaur.
You will quickly get a hande on the school and the kids when you first get there. Worry not my friend...
the alligators are in the swamp... just remember to bring your pump and smile lots. |
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Lemonade
Joined: 04 Jan 2006
Location: South Korea
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| Posted: Mon Jun 05, 2006 7:09 pm Post subject: |
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| ttompatz wrote: |
Don't worry too much about real teaching... edutainer is more along the line.
Be friendly with the kids. Think of yourself as a big purple dinosaur. |
Yes, yes make sure to practice singing all the big purple dinosaur songs. Singing is VERY important when it comes to teaching children in hagwons. Oh and don't forget to learn what kinds of candy the children like. All of this will be far more important than getting any formal training. Here in Korea, it's all about pleasing Koreans who think learning English should always be fun... no hard work. |
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kingplaya4
Joined: 14 May 2006
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| Posted: Mon Jun 05, 2006 7:14 pm Post subject: |
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| ttompatz wrote: |
| kingplaya4 wrote: |
Bumping this, sorry have been busy and haven't gotten to the boards in a few days.
Age is elementary to middle school. I really have no idea what level they're at, I'm not there yet, but they're kids in Daegu if this helps. |
Elementary to middle school... sounds like an afternoon/evening hakwan.
Don't worry too much about real teaching... edutainer is more along the line.
Standard Korean practise is "DO 2 PAGES every day". Be friendly with the kids. Think of yourself as a big purple dinosaur.
You will quickly get a hande on the school and the kids when you first get there. Worry not my friend...
the alligators are in the swamp... just remember to bring your pump and smile lots. |
Thank you for your post and reassurance. I don't want to just the bare minimum to get paid, I would like to do some real teaching. Ideally I'd take a CELTA course, but I don't have the time or money for it at the moment.
Are kids going to rebel if I really try to make them learn English? I know Korean kids spend too much time at school and they are probably dead tired by hagwon time, but I would hope they still can do some learning. I'm hardly an idealist, but I wouldn't have much long term job satisfaction if I was nothing more than an evening babysitter. |
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Lemonade
Joined: 04 Jan 2006
Location: South Korea
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| Posted: Mon Jun 05, 2006 7:29 pm Post subject: |
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| kingplaya4 wrote: |
| I'm hardly an idealist, but I wouldn't have much long term job satisfaction if I was nothing more than an evening babysitter. |
Babysitting is what you will be doing in hagwons, especially with elementary children. This is the norm in Korea. There are a FEW exceptions. Children go to hagwons because parents think their kids will have fun with a foreigner. They think their kids have really learned Englisheeee well if they can sing a song. Koreans love singing. |
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kiwiliz
Joined: 20 Apr 2006
Location: New Zealand
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Are kids going to rebel if I really try to make them learn English? I know Korean kids spend too much time at school and they are probably dead tired by hagwon time, but I would hope they still can do some learning. I'm hardly an idealist, but I wouldn't have much long term job satisfaction if I was nothing more than an evening babysitter.[/quote]
lol...the kids might not rebel but the hagwon owners will! I wanted to do real teaching and found I had to be in a public school to do so. and even then they seem to think that the only way kids can learn is to play games. It helps yes..but I also like to eleicit/concept check etc...and got real funny looks at one public school when I did this...getting the children to repeat what was ont he CD was all the teachers wanted to do...it didn't matter if the kids didn't understand it.
My advice..try and start they way you want to teach...input little changes at a time if you can't do that....good luck! |
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Dan The Chainsawman
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| Posted: Mon Jun 05, 2006 7:39 pm Post subject: |
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My kids rebel all the time that is why I keep a riot baton in my classroom to beat them down.
Seriously though...
Approach it from a view point that these kids are going to respect those who demand respect. If you let them walk all over you then you will be found in the corner of your classroom curled up in a ball holding your bleeding bum. Be very direct, be assertive, and be consistent. You may want to adjust your ideas right now about what you can expect out of your students because Willy Shakespeare isn't going to be happening in your hood anytime soon. Think Doctor Suess but easier think doctor suess for retarded kids. |
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Lemonade
Joined: 04 Jan 2006
Location: South Korea
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| Posted: Mon Jun 05, 2006 7:44 pm Post subject: |
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| Dan The Chainsawman wrote: |
| Willy Shakespeare isn't going to be happening in your hood anytime soon. Think Doctor Suess but easier think doctor suess for retarded kids. |
 so sad but so true. |
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kingplaya4
Joined: 14 May 2006
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| Posted: Mon Jun 05, 2006 9:29 pm Post subject: |
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| Thanks for the constructive replies (even if they are dissapointing). I guess I will just go with the flow and be content with minor improvements. What sort of games do Korean kids tend to gravitate towards? |
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Lemonade
Joined: 04 Jan 2006
Location: South Korea
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What's the name of the game when the kids like to stick their finger up your  ? There's a name for it and I can't remember. |
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