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Dev
Joined: 18 Apr 2006
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 Posted: Tue Jun 06, 2006 10:41 pm Post subject: Getting To Toronto but NOT by Air Canada? |
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Has anyone online flown to Toronto with an airline other than Air Canada? I really hate those goofballs. Flight attendants that hate their jobs, not enough English newspapers for the Canadian passengers on the plane (lots of Korean papers for the Koreans though), Shin cup ramen for your evening snack, and no free food (except for those little coccktail biscuts) on domestic flights (and it doesn't matter how far you're flying).
Air Canada makes flying feel like an obstacle to overcome. |
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ttompatz
Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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| Posted: Wed Jun 07, 2006 2:43 am Post subject: Re: Getting To Toronto but NOT by Air Canada? |
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| Dev wrote: |
Has anyone online flown to Toronto with an airline other than Air Canada? I really hate those goofballs. Flight attendants that hate their jobs, not enough English newspapers for the Canadian passengers on the plane (lots of Korean papers for the Koreans though), Shin cup ramen for your evening snack, and no free food (except for those little coccktail biscuts) on domestic flights (and it doesn't matter how far you're flying).
Air Canada makes flying feel like an obstacle to overcome. |
If you want a direct flight from ICN to YYZ then you have Air Canada (Asianna code share flight) or Korean air to choose from. Korean is a bit more expensive but the service is well worth the price on a long haul flight.
Alternatively you can also choose to fly via another country like Taiwan (EVA air), (China Air) or HongKong (Cathay), Singapore (Silk Air) and the prices are comparable to AC with much better service. They all offer flights to Toronto via their respective countries (and often allow a layover if you want to spend a day).
The last choice is fly via the States. There are a bunch of hassles flying this way (TSA sucks) but if you are the one paying the freight, then it is often the cheapest routing during the summer months (outside of the AC/Asianna codeshare).
Asianna also offers a direct flight to Chicago for about 700k won. Then you just need a short commuter flight from there to YYZ.
Good luck. I refuse to fly AC too. They made my worst choice list a long time ago (even before the days of the PWA/CP merger). I will fly just about anyone else before I fly AC.
HEY, AC.... ARE YOU LISTENING..... you should be...
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canuck in Ansan
Joined: 27 Jul 2005
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| Posted: Wed Jun 07, 2006 2:50 am Post subject: |
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I'm actually going through the same thing right now, trying to get my school onto getting my flight figured out. However, a coworker comes to me and tells me he found a good price with AC. My first thought is "but they dont have individual movie screens!" (correct me if I'm wrong, please...but so far I've yet to be on an AC flight with them).
Thats my biggest concern, since I can't sleep on planes.
Alternatively, I've found a flight at the same cost, with one extra stop in Tokyo, that flies to Toronto through All Nippon. Has anyone ever flown with them?
Sorry to the OP, I couldn't help with the original question |
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ttompatz
Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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| Posted: Wed Jun 07, 2006 2:53 am Post subject: |
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| canuck in Ansan wrote: |
I'm actually going through the same thing right now, trying to get my school onto getting my flight figured out. However, a coworker comes to me and tells me he found a good price with AC. My first thought is "but they dont have individual movie screens!" (correct me if I'm wrong, please...but so far I've yet to be on an AC flight with them).
Thats my biggest concern, since I can't sleep on planes.
Alternatively, I've found a flight at the same cost, with one extra stop in Tokyo, that flies to Toronto through All Nippon. Has anyone ever flown with them?
Sorry to the OP, I couldn't help with the original question |
ANA offers good service. I would fly them again.
Narita is a bit of a chore though. Make sure you have time for RUNNING or waiting for the subway between gates if you have to change planes.
Take some snacks in your bag too. $3 for a coke and $5 for a coffee are a bit much for me. |
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Dev
Joined: 18 Apr 2006
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| Posted: Wed Jun 07, 2006 3:20 am Post subject: |
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| canuck in Ansan wrote: |
I'm actually going through the same thing right now, trying to get my school onto getting my flight figured out. However, a coworker comes to me and tells me he found a good price with AC. My first thought is "but they dont have individual movie screens!" (correct me if I'm wrong, please...but so far I've yet to be on an AC flight with them).
Thats my biggest concern, since I can't sleep on planes.
Alternatively, I've found a flight at the same cost, with one extra stop in Tokyo, that flies to Toronto through All Nippon. Has anyone ever flown with them?
Sorry to the OP, I couldn't help with the original question |
You don't get anything on AC, not even polite service. It's not cool to kiss the customer's behind - I guess that's what they're thinking. Actually, it's not butt-kissing, but pampering the passengers - going that one extra mile. You don't get that anymore with AC - and the American airline co's are only slightly better. For beeeps sake, some people only get to ride an airplane once or twice in their lives and the AC flight attendants are too selfish to make it a special experience for them. "We realize you have a choice of airlines and thank you for choosing Air Canada." Please! Tell us you don't give a beeep! I'll believe that more.  I'm ranting. Sorry!
ANA (All Nippon Airways)? I don't think you can go wrong with them. You can always expect reliable and respectful service from the Japanese. They tend to be pricey, but sometimes you can find a sale. By all means, go for it. |
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Homer
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| Posted: Wed Jun 07, 2006 3:59 am Post subject: |
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Many options here
1- Northwest
Seoul-Detroit-Toronto
2- Continental
Seoul-Atlanta-Toronto
3- Japan airlines
Seoul-Tokyo-Chicago-Toronto (they may do direct)
4- Korean Air
Seoul-Toronto (they have a direct but code share with AC)
5- American Airlines (with other airline)
Seoul-Chicago-Toronto
6- Asiana
Seoul-Vancouver then book with Westjet for the Van-To leg of the trip.
Korean Air
Seoul-NYC-TO
The dance continues.... |
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bucheon bum
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Wed Jun 07, 2006 6:17 am Post subject: |
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Sinagpore Air has direct flights from Seoul to Vancouver as well. Unfortunately they don't go on to Toronto.
I'd go with the ANA ticket if I were you. |
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numazawa
Joined: 20 Mar 2005
Location: The Concrete Barnyard
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| Posted: Wed Jun 07, 2006 7:37 am Post subject: |
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Fair warning though: the ANA flight via Tokyo is an AC codeshare.
[signed]
-- Another AC-Avoider |
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vixen nomad
Joined: 05 Jul 2005
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| Posted: Wed Jun 07, 2006 3:20 pm Post subject: |
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| I am flying from Seoul to Bangkok to New York with Thai Airways. Then I am flying from New York to Toronto with American Airlines. The total cost for this was the same as a one-way direct with AC, but this way I have a 4 week stop over in Thailand |
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VanIslander
Joined: 18 Aug 2003
Location: Geoje, Hadong, Tongyeong,... now in a small coastal island town outside Gyeongsangnamdo!
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| Posted: Wed Jun 07, 2006 3:24 pm Post subject: |
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I am utterly amazed at how consistently bad my Air Canada flight experiences have been.
Their attendants really have an attitude problem. There's always one or two. |
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Homer
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| Posted: Wed Jun 07, 2006 3:31 pm Post subject: |
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| I avoid AC like the plague it is. |
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ajgeddes
Joined: 28 Apr 2004
Location: Yongsan
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| Posted: Wed Jun 07, 2006 3:52 pm Post subject: |
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I didn't read what everyone wrote, but I am also going to Toronto this summer. I am flying Cathay Pacific, which is what I did last year. Apparently they are the world's best airline, although I don't think so. Anyways, they are generally the cheapest flight that doesn't have 17.64 stop-overs along the way. You do have to fly to Hong Kong though and then to Toronto. 3.5 hours to Hong Kong and then 17 hours to Toronto with a stopover in Anchorage.
EVA would also be a great choice, but they only fly to Vancouver and not Toronto. So, with them you have at least 2 stop-overs and you are changing airlines in Vancouver.
Anyways, I agree with you, I am not flying AC and I don't really like KAL either, so that's what I choose Cathay Pacific. |
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the_beaver
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Wed Jun 07, 2006 3:54 pm Post subject: |
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Just to add my two cents.
Yes, Air Canada bites. |
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Dev
Joined: 18 Apr 2006
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| Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2006 6:41 am Post subject: |
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| ajgeddes wrote: |
I didn't read what everyone wrote, but I am also going to Toronto this summer. I am flying Cathay Pacific, which is what I did last year. Apparently they are the world's best airline, although I don't think so. Anyways, they are generally the cheapest flight that doesn't have 17.64 stop-overs along the way. You do have to fly to Hong Kong though and then to Toronto. 3.5 hours to Hong Kong and then 17 hours to Toronto with a stopover in Anchorage.
Anyways, I agree with you, I am not flying AC and I don't really like KAL either, so that's what I choose Cathay Pacific. |
I guess you're paying for that yourself??? I don't see your employer paying for you to take the scenic route home (unless he is familiar with the prices). I love the idea though.
I like Cathay Pacific. I have used them once. The flight attendants were kind and the food on the plane was very good.
Where did you buy your ticket? I just looked at Cathay's website. 2.8 M won for a round trip ticket to Toronto in August. Ouch!  |
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ajgeddes
Joined: 28 Apr 2004
Location: Yongsan
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| Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2006 3:11 pm Post subject: |
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| Dev wrote: |
| ajgeddes wrote: |
I didn't read what everyone wrote, but I am also going to Toronto this summer. I am flying Cathay Pacific, which is what I did last year. Apparently they are the world's best airline, although I don't think so. Anyways, they are generally the cheapest flight that doesn't have 17.64 stop-overs along the way. You do have to fly to Hong Kong though and then to Toronto. 3.5 hours to Hong Kong and then 17 hours to Toronto with a stopover in Anchorage.
Anyways, I agree with you, I am not flying AC and I don't really like KAL either, so that's what I choose Cathay Pacific. |
I guess you're paying for that yourself??? I don't see your employer paying for you to take the scenic route home (unless he is familiar with the prices). I love the idea though.
I like Cathay Pacific. I have used them once. The flight attendants were kind and the food on the plane was very good.
Where did you buy your ticket? I just looked at Cathay's website. 2.8 M won for a round trip ticket to Toronto in August. Ouch! |
The Cathay Pacific flight is the second cheapest flight I could find, and my employer is paying for it. However, I didn't pay 2.8 million for it. I only paid 1.3 million (or 1.4). Air Canada and Korean Airlines are just about two of the most expensive airlines out there. Cathay Pacific is only one stop-over and most other flights have 2 or more (except for the expensive AC and KAL flights). |
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