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Who/What will be blamed if/when Korea does poorly at W.C.
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Who/What will be blamed?
Coach
50%
 50%  [ 16 ]
Refs
6%
 6%  [ 2 ]
Travel (cuz of course, no other team has to tavel far)
3%
 3%  [ 1 ]
Racism
6%
 6%  [ 2 ]
Poor tournament set up
3%
 3%  [ 1 ]
Bad hotel
0%
 0%  [ 0 ]
Japan or USA (even if they never play each other)
21%
 21%  [ 7 ]
Canadian teachers of English
3%
 3%  [ 1 ]
Korean players (funny, eh?)
3%
 3%  [ 1 ]
Other
3%
 3%  [ 1 ]
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Newbie



Joined: 07 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Wed Jun 07, 2006 7:23 am    Post subject: Who/What will be blamed if/when Korea does poorly at W.C. Reply with quote

So I don't follow soccer too closely, but their warm up games and popular opinion here seem to suggest that Korea will not perform so well in Germany.

Who will be blamed?

Sure, the true soccer fans might actually admit there is something wrong with the Korean team. But how about the average "daehanmigook" yelling fan that doesn't know the difference between forward and mid-field.

I see Advocaat being the scape goat
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flotsam



Joined: 28 Mar 2006

PostPosted: Wed Jun 07, 2006 7:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Other:

Patchy will blame all of us.
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Hollywoodaction



Joined: 02 Jul 2004

PostPosted: Wed Jun 07, 2006 1:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I voted for 'coach'. Remember how they were quick to blame the Korean coach after (heck, during) the 1998 World Cup. He said that the Korean team needed a few more years of international experience before being able to win the big games. But, Korean 'soccer fans' claimed that 'he killed the fighting spirit of the Korean team'. Turns out that they were wrong and he was right.

(I won't get into how Korean 'soccer fans' were far from being in love with Guus Hiddink up until a week before the 2002 World Cup because we can only speculate what would have happened if the Korean team had buckled under pressure, as they often do.)
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SuperHero



Joined: 10 Dec 2003
Location: Superhero Hideout

PostPosted: Wed Jun 07, 2006 2:19 pm    Post subject: Re: Who/What will be blamed if/when Korea does poorly at W.C Reply with quote

Newbie wrote:
So I don't follow soccer too closely, but their warm up games and popular opinion here seem to suggest that Korea will not perform so well in Germany.

Who will be blamed?

Sure, the true soccer fans might actually admit there is something wrong with the Korean team. But how about the average "daehanmigook" yelling fan that doesn't know the difference between forward and mid-field.

I see Advocaat being the scape goat

Are you just looking for somehting negative to say?

of course they will blame the coach. Every sports team fan on the planet blames the coach when they do poorly.
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Newbie



Joined: 07 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Wed Jun 07, 2006 5:09 pm    Post subject: Re: Who/What will be blamed if/when Korea does poorly at W.C Reply with quote

SuperHero wrote:
Are you just looking for somehting negative to say?

of course they will blame the coach. Every sports team fan on the planet blames the coach when they do poorly.


Hardly. Any bandwaggon fan blames the coach. People who know sports realize its not his fault.

Take Canada at the winter Olympics. Idiots would blame Pat Quinn. Anybody who knows anything about hockey realizes that the players didn't get up for the game and that Canada went with 1 dimensional defencemen-- big strong guys that can't really move the puck. Sure, some fool will say that it was Quinn's job to motivate the players and get them going, but these are grown men, pro athletes. Not 12 year old boys
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Greekfreak



Joined: 25 May 2003

PostPosted: Wed Jun 07, 2006 7:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The coach, naturalmente.

They're doing their best to "Hiddinkifiy" him; witness the lastest PAVV advertisements. I saw a college/university student with an Advocaat badge on her bookbag.

Nevertheless, unless some obvious f-ups occur during actual game-play, they'll blame Advocaat, but the reality is most Koreans don't think their team will do well, and they've been polling since last year. In their heart of hearts, they know that the team's a lead balloon, and that they'll be lucky to advance to the next round.

However, God forbid they should do so, because we know what would come next.
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Smee



Joined: 24 Dec 2004
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 07, 2006 9:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sergei Berezin.
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Newbie



Joined: 07 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Wed Jun 07, 2006 9:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Smee wrote:
Sergei Berezin.


The Bear!! I loved that guy as a Leaf.
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Merlyn



Joined: 08 Dec 2004
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Thu Jun 08, 2006 4:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
the reality is most Koreans don't think their team will do well, and they've been polling since last year.


In the Korean Times, they've polled and they say 9 out of 10 Koreans expect their team to make it out of their group.
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nasbert



Joined: 07 Jun 2003
Location: seoul

PostPosted: Thu Jun 08, 2006 5:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I watched Korea play Uzbekistan (or one of the 'Stans) in the final round of qualifying for the world cup. The announcers blamed the subsequent tie (if memory serves) on: 1) the heat 2) the poor quality grass on the pitch, and 3) a "slanted" pitch. This was when Bonfret (sp) was in charge...

The media will latch onto any initial small influence from outside forces, then when the smoke clears jump all over Advocaat. No villas in Jeju for this Dutchman!
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Howard Roark



Joined: 02 Feb 2003
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 08, 2006 6:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

They haven't even played yet and one of my company exec guys is already blaming the coach.
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sid



Joined: 02 Feb 2003
Location: Berkshire, England

PostPosted: Fri Jun 09, 2006 1:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Merlyn wrote:
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the reality is most Koreans don't think their team will do well, and they've been polling since last year.


In the Korean Times, they've polled and they say 9 out of 10 Koreans expect their team to make it out of their group.


Sure I saw a poll on one of the big TV channels saying 79% thought they wouldn't go through to the next round.
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Captain Corea



Joined: 28 Feb 2005
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Fri Jun 09, 2006 3:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can I pick "all of the above"?
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flakfizer



Joined: 12 Nov 2004
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 09, 2006 5:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

substandard kimchi and rice.
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peppermint



Joined: 13 May 2003
Location: traversing the minefields of caddishness.

PostPosted: Fri Jun 09, 2006 6:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

non Koreans who don't chant for the red Devils, duh!

Quote:
Kim Min-jung, whose brother is part of a large Korean student population in Cologne, was awe-struck by the city�s magnificent cathedral outside the station but wondered where the party was.
�No one joins in when we sing �Dae-Han-Min-Kuk�,� said Kim, who could not resist clapping the remainder of the Korean fans� signature chant.
�People kept telling us to keep it down on the train. It was strange they didn�t want to enjoy themselves.�


http://football.guardian.co.uk/breakingnews/feedstory/0,,-5865906,00.html
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