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mindmetoo
Joined: 02 Feb 2004
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 Posted: Sat Jun 10, 2006 5:33 am Post subject: Re: Zimbabwe Going Down... |
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| rapier wrote: |
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| rapier wrote: |
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| Thanks a lot U westerners for helping mugabe to power 20 years back |
You're entirely welcome. |
Difference is, the world was more sympathetic seeing Zimbabwe go down than watching your twin towers go down. |
Hey, you asked for my thanks and I said you're welcome to it. Your problems are your own. You lived pretty well on the back of your father. Now you get to make your own way in the world. I realize it must suck having an array of black servants to do everything for you and then suddenly that's all taken away and you're just another white guy in a big white world. |
 MM2 you're funny Its amusing having people throwing stereotypes at you and thinking to themselves that they're really getting to you. yes MM2 I whipped my slaves everyday and daddy gave me a new merc every birthday.
"hey, cowboy bush supporter,must be hard for you to eat spicy korean food after eating burgers every day like all americans. You must really be a loser if you chose to come to korea to teach esl, rather than be a multiple millionaire in America.' |
So the white minority treated the black majority fairly? |
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rapier
Joined: 16 Feb 2003
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| Posted: Sat Jun 10, 2006 6:23 am Post subject: Re: Zimbabwe Going Down... |
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So the white minority treated the black majority fairly? |
Where? In America or Zimbabwe? How many slaves did your grandaddy own?
Hmm. Question. Why did so many more blacks volunteer to fight for Ian Smith than whites?. |
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Leslie Cheswyck
Joined: 31 May 2003
Location: University of Western Chile
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rapier
Joined: 16 Feb 2003
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| Posted: Sat Jun 10, 2006 10:02 pm Post subject: |
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Thats a reasonably good overview. Re: the inflation: my money there would've got me a good house and 2 acre plot there in 93. Unfortunately because banks had slapped draconian restrictions on withdrawing money: not only was no zim currency allowed out the country, but money and transactions were regulated to ridiculously limited installments. The act of taking cash out involved qeueing for a day at least in a line of people that snaked along the main road through the town.In 96 there was already severe frustration there, i saw people smashing up banks and attacking cars of whites.From 1994-2004, the value of what was mine fell precipitously until at last I signed it all over to a friend there who managed to buy a full tank of petrol with it .A few months later she had to leave her car beside the road in the middle of nowhere and walk home because she could not afford the cost of getting it towed. I don't hear from her anymore presumably because email is too expensive or no longer connects.
Talking of a riches to rags story, I met a French speaking white guy from Zaire there in 96. He said his family had once owned a couple of large farms up there. After a few decades, they'd lost their farms and were reduced to poaching elephants for Mobutu, and their life savings had been spent on paying university fees for him so he could graduate from a western university.
You have to laff I suppose. |
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ddeubel
Joined: 20 Jul 2005
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| Posted: Sun Jun 11, 2006 12:24 am Post subject: |
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Smith had that country running like the prosperous well-oiled machine it should be.
His only mistake was to declare unilateral independence. The west didn't like that one bit and then did all they could to ruin a successful country.
I think people should be reminded that more blacks fought on Ian smith's side in the Rhodesian forces than did whites. Hardly the racist paradise portrayed in western media. |
Rapier,
You said some very insightful things (and also the twin towers view, yes, so many don't give a fu.....).
I don't contest the fact that Smith was a smart economic manager. He allowed the country to become and do what it does best -- trade / farm / grow.
Still, I do think that many of the problems that the future held with Zimbabwe could have been foreseen and avoided if he'd of been a shrewder manager. He should have devolved the govt, put many more blacks into positions of authority, he should have communicated much better
Those facts IN NO WAY , excuse the good he did or what Mugabe so raciously undertook, in ravaging the country. I'm just saying,the process started with Smith and exasperated........got exaggerated with each future step. Smith could have been better on the "social" end...
DD |
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bucheon bum
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Sun Jun 11, 2006 1:02 am Post subject: |
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can we not all agree that mugabe=asshole to the extreme and scum of the earth?
yeah, i thought so. |
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rapier
Joined: 16 Feb 2003
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| Posted: Sun Jun 11, 2006 3:59 am Post subject: |
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| ddeubel wrote: |
I'm just saying,the process started with Smith and exasperated........got exaggerated with each future step. Smith could have been better on the "social" end...
DD |
yep, it was unfortunate the way things went...The racial/cultural divides in the country were never really overcome...and yes, the former white govt could've done better on that score.
The drastic overnight approach to land reform Mugabe took to try and win back popularity was simply disastrous though too. |
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