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Newbie

Joined: 07 Feb 2003
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Posted: Sun Jun 11, 2006 1:23 am Post subject: Soccer from an idiot's P.O.V. |
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I find soccer quite boring and can't understand at all why it is so popular (other than the fact the poor people can easily play it) However I am not so arrogant to think that a huge majority of the world is wrong and we North Americans are in the right so every 4 years since 1994 I have tried to get into it. Still having some troubles that I would love to have cleared up for me by some of you soccer-wise folk.
I'm not going to prattle on like the typical, idiotic yank and mention how stupid it is that players can't use hands, or how slow and low scoring the game is. Here are my concerns...
1) Does England have the thinnest, non-long distance running athlete in the world? That Church guy is an absolute toothpick. (ok, so I'm starting off with a rather superficial concern)
2) As a rugby player I could always run at full speed, take a good header, then get up feeling right as rain. Why do the same actions taken by a soccer player seem to cause the same trauma as a 100 mph car accident?
3) That question leads neatly into my biggest problem with soccer-- the drama. I know most people blame Italians for the diving and other crap, but I watched Enlgand play last night and there was the same stuff. In hockey, if a player over-embelishes a foul he'll get an unsportsmanlike conduct penalty. Anything like that in soccer? I'd love to see the guys who fall, look around for 30 seconds, and then start rolling around in pain be handed a yellow or red card.
4) How the hell do the goalies make the ball fly so far? Do they have led in their boots or something. I've kicked a ball around once or twice as a grown man and the most I can do is make it float a good 10 or 20 meters. I'm just amazed how far goalies let it go.
5) Can you actually sit through an entire 90 minutes? I've never been able to. Can watch the majority of a World Cup game, but still have to change the channel every 10-15 minutes.
Finally, a huge kudos to soccer for the following. I love the fact that if team A commits a foul that goes uncalled by the ref, they'll just hand the ball over to the other team. Also really like the handshaking at the end of the game. Reminds me of the NHL playoffs. Great sportsmanship. If only we could teach the yanks to try it out  |
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schwa
Joined: 18 Jan 2003 Location: Yap
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flotsam
Joined: 28 Mar 2006
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Posted: Sun Jun 11, 2006 1:55 am Post subject: |
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I remember that one.
"And ties? You bet."
Now that's funny. |
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flakfizer

Joined: 12 Nov 2004 Location: scaling the Cliffs of Insanity with a frayed rope.
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Posted: Sun Jun 11, 2006 2:15 am Post subject: |
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If that's the snippet I think it is (I didn't check it), it will be even funnier when Mexico and Portugal actually do square off this WC. |
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Jeju Rocks
Joined: 23 Aug 2004
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Posted: Sun Jun 11, 2006 3:12 am Post subject: |
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It's funny because it's so true.  |
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poker player

Joined: 27 Sep 2004 Location: On the river
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Posted: Sun Jun 11, 2006 4:12 am Post subject: |
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I forced myself to watch the England Paraguay game and the highlight was a guy scoring on his own goal and that was all the scoring.That tells you all you need to know about soccer. |
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jinju
Joined: 22 Jan 2006
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Posted: Sun Jun 11, 2006 4:21 am Post subject: |
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poker player wrote: |
I forced myself to watch the England Paraguay game and the highlight was a guy scoring on his own goal and that was all the scoring.That tells you all you need to know about soccer. |
I see your avatar. I watched hockey a lot and half the team are unskilled losers who cant do anything but fight. Tells you all you need to know about hockey when a sport played in 5 countries cant even fill up 25 rosters with skileld players. But then again, you probably share the caveman views of that drunk racist Don Cherry and you think fighting IS what hockey is all about. |
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sjrm
Joined: 27 Jul 2005
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Posted: Sun Jun 11, 2006 4:23 am Post subject: |
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jinju wrote: |
poker player wrote: |
I forced myself to watch the England Paraguay game and the highlight was a guy scoring on his own goal and that was all the scoring.That tells you all you need to know about soccer. |
I see your avatar. I watched hockey a lot and half the team are unskilled losers who cant do anything but fight. Tells you all you need to know about hockey when a sport played in 5 countries cant even fill up 25 rosters with skileld players. But then again, you probably share the caveman views of that drunk racist Don Cherry and you think fighting IS what hockey is all about. |
unskilled losers? have you ever tried playing ice hockey? |
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poker player

Joined: 27 Sep 2004 Location: On the river
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Posted: Sun Jun 11, 2006 4:30 am Post subject: |
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jinju wrote: |
poker player wrote: |
I forced myself to watch the England Paraguay game and the highlight was a guy scoring on his own goal and that was all the scoring.That tells you all you need to know about soccer. |
I see your avatar. I watched hockey a lot and half the team are unskilled losers who cant do anything but fight. Tells you all you need to know about hockey when a sport played in 5 countries cant even fill up 25 rosters with skileld players. But then again, you probably share the caveman views of that drunk racist Don Cherry and you think fighting IS what hockey is all about. |
Amazing how you can sum everything up about someone you don't know a damn thing about from 1 post. But then I have seen your attacks on Lemonade. You're a real low class act but the difference between me and Lemonade is that she is a lady and I'm not. You are a loser who only wants to flame and call a woman you don't know a hag. I could give a flying fukk what you think about hockey and me. This thread is for people who think soccer is a joke., If you don't like hockey, start a thread on it. Be gone little fella |
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sjrm
Joined: 27 Jul 2005
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Posted: Sun Jun 11, 2006 4:32 am Post subject: |
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poker player wrote: |
jinju wrote: |
poker player wrote: |
I forced myself to watch the England Paraguay game and the highlight was a guy scoring on his own goal and that was all the scoring.That tells you all you need to know about soccer. |
I see your avatar. I watched hockey a lot and half the team are unskilled losers who cant do anything but fight. Tells you all you need to know about hockey when a sport played in 5 countries cant even fill up 25 rosters with skileld players. But then again, you probably share the caveman views of that drunk racist Don Cherry and you think fighting IS what hockey is all about. |
Amazing how you can sum everything up about someone you don't know a damn thing about from 1 post. But then I have seen your attacks on Lemonade. You're a real low class act but the difference between me and Lemonade is that she is a lady and I'm not. You are a loser who only wants to flame and call a woman you don't know a hag. I could give a flying fukk what you think about hockey and me. This thread is for people who think soccer is a joke., If you don't like hockey, start a thread on it. Be gone little fella |
i second that. |
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dbee
Joined: 29 Dec 2004 Location: korea
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Posted: Sun Jun 11, 2006 5:07 am Post subject: |
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It's true that some games of soccer can be especially boring. The England Paraguay game was definitely one of those games. Same thing can happen in just about any sport though. I think that people how have preconcieved notions about the game are going to highlight the 1-0 own goal game between those nations, as opposed to the six goal thriller between Germany and Costa Rica, which had some outstanding goals and action the night before.
The thing about the low scores and games ending in a tie probably seems a bit strange to North Americans. As indeed do basketball games that end 110-109 seem kinda strange to non-NA's. I don't really like basketball, I don't get baseball, but I think American football isn't too bad when you get into it.
The thing that most seperates soccer from the NA sports though in my opinion is the history of the game, and the history of the countries that the games are played between. Every England vs Germany game is a re-run of WII, every time England play Argentina, it's the Falklands all over again. Any of the South Americans countries are playing for not only their national pride, but also for their place on stage amongst the world's top countries.
The other great thing about soccer IMO is the fact that it just isn't as commercial as the large NA sports. The world cup in the US actually had to run commercials on the loudspeakers during the games. And when the womens soccer team won their World Cup, the first thing they did was a 'we won the world cup and now we're going to disneyland' chorus for the TV cameras. There were many other changes the American soccer association wanted to bring in to the game before that world cup. Most were rejected however for being contrary to the spirit of the game.
The countries at the world cup play for pride and honor. You'll never get that in an international baseball, basketball, American football game. The game hasn't been polished for your viewing pleasure to the same extent that most NA sports are. I'm not sure that's such a bad thing though. |
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Guri Guy

Joined: 07 Sep 2003 Location: Bamboo Island
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Posted: Sun Jun 11, 2006 5:11 am Post subject: |
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Hockey is my sport of choice though I like soccer too. I wish Canada was better at soccer.
Jinju is best ignored. He obviously doesn't know what he is talking about when it comes to hockey. Insulting people for no reason is all is also not cool. |
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VanIslander

Joined: 18 Aug 2003 Location: Geoje, Hadong, Tongyeong,... now in a small coastal island town outside Gyeongsangnamdo!
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Posted: Sun Jun 11, 2006 5:16 am Post subject: Re: Soccer from an idiot's P.O.V. |
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Newbie wrote: |
I find soccer quite boring |
try watching nine innings of "America's game"
or left hand turns for four hundred laps |
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sjrm
Joined: 27 Jul 2005
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Posted: Sun Jun 11, 2006 5:38 am Post subject: Re: Soccer from an idiot's P.O.V. |
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VanIslander wrote: |
try watching nine innings of "America's game" |
when back in the US, i tried to get out to as many games as i could, and i've seen three games already this season in the korean league.
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can't argue with that one.  |
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ajgeddes

Joined: 28 Apr 2004 Location: Yongsan
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Posted: Sun Jun 11, 2006 6:17 am Post subject: |
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Baseball is excruciating to watch on TV, it sucks the life right out of me. The funny thing is, I love baseball and I love playing baseball. Normal baseball is not nearly as slow as professional baseball. I don't mean the pitches or the running or the hitting, but just the game pace. Professional baseball is slow and boring because they are terrified of making a mistake.
The one sport I don't really care that much for is American football. It isn't so much the game that is so boring, but the game pace that really keeps me away from getting into it. It's like the last 45 seconds of a baseball game that actually take about 15 minutes to play. It really makes the game boring.
I also find rugby to be quite boring, but I am going to blame that on never really even trying to get into it.
My favourite sports are Hockey, soccer, baseball, and Aussie Rules (even though I only see it on tv) |
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