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fiveeagles

Joined: 19 May 2005
Location: Vancouver

Posted: Fri Jun 09, 2006 7:41 am Post subject: Muslim Terrorist turns to Christ

http://livedigital.com/content/356878/ A radical palestine terrorist turns to Christ for salvation. Witness the power of Christ's love.

thepeel

Joined: 08 Aug 2004

Posted: Fri Jun 09, 2006 8:31 am Post subject:

I'd be more impressed if he turned to science and rationality and away from mysticism and imaginary friends.

igotthisguitar

Joined: 08 Apr 2003
Location: South Korea (Permanent Vacation)

Posted: Fri Jun 09, 2006 8:44 am Post subject:

Jesus is apparently NUMBER #2 ( next only to Mohammed ), according to the Muslim theological paradigm

bucheon bum

Joined: 16 Jan 2003

Posted: Fri Jun 09, 2006 9:58 am Post subject:

BJWD wrote:

I'd be more impressed if he turned to science and rationality and away from mysticism and imaginary friends.

true.

Now I can't watch the video (at work) but two things popped into my head:

1. The video title said palestinian, you said muslim. Maybe the man was a xtian to begin with? (probably says in the video).

2. As IGTG noted, Jesus is considered a prophet in Islam so not a big stretch for this dude to really dig jesus.

rapier

Joined: 16 Feb 2003

Posted: Sat Jun 10, 2006 6:37 am Post subject:

[quote="bucheon bum"]

Quote:

The video title said palestinian, you said muslim. Maybe the man was a xtian to begin with?

He's a former terrorist/ bomber who was raised from birth to hate jews.

Quote:

As IGTG noted, Jesus is considered a prophet in Islam so not a big stretch for this dude to really dig jesus.

Probably a big stretch for him to change from trying to kill jews to admitting they were in Israel first and that Palestinians originate from elsewhere though..

bucheon bum

Joined: 16 Jan 2003

Posted: Sat Jun 10, 2006 8:54 am Post subject:

[quote="rapier"]

bucheon bum wrote:

Quote:

The video title said palestinian, you said muslim. Maybe the man was a xtian to begin with?

He's a former terrorist/ bomber who was raised from birth to hate jews.

Quote:

As IGTG noted, Jesus is considered a prophet in Islam so not a big stretch for this dude to really dig jesus.

Probably a big stretch for him to change from trying to kill jews to admitting they were in Israel first and that Palestinians originate from elsewhere though..

Well yeah, but the OP's whole motivation was this man found christ, not the fact that he has changed his ways.

fiveeagles

Joined: 19 May 2005
Location: Vancouver

Posted: Sat Jun 10, 2006 5:22 pm Post subject:

[quote="bucheon bum"]

rapier wrote:

bucheon bum wrote:

Quote:

The video title said palestinian, you said muslim. Maybe the man was a xtian to begin with?

He's a former terrorist/ bomber who was raised from birth to hate jews.

Quote:

As IGTG noted, Jesus is considered a prophet in Islam so not a big stretch for this dude to really dig jesus.

Probably a big stretch for him to change from trying to kill jews to admitting they were in Israel first and that Palestinians originate from elsewhere though..

Well yeah, but the OP's whole motivation was this man found christ, not the fact that he has changed his ways.

You can't find Christ without changing and that is the point of the show. Cool

JAWINSEOUL

Joined: 19 Nov 2005

Posted: Sat Jun 10, 2006 5:52 pm Post subject:

Does this mean he will kill for our side now?

Satori

Joined: 09 Dec 2005
Location: Above it all

Posted: Sat Jun 10, 2006 8:50 pm Post subject: Re: Muslim Terrorist turns to Christ

fiveeagles wrote:

Witness the power of Christ's love.

Let's go murder some abortion doctors...

khyber

Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Compunction Junction

Posted: Sun Jun 11, 2006 4:44 pm Post subject:

at least he can still dislike jews....

Interested

Joined: 10 Feb 2003

Posted: Sun Jun 11, 2006 6:34 pm Post subject:

rapier wrote:

Probably a big stretch for him to change from trying to kill jews to admitting they were in Israel first and that Palestinians originate from elsewhere though..

Curious perspective on history you have there. This my perspective: The Israelis invaded those lands to establish Israel back in biblical times (you can even read about it in the old testament). At the time, it was ALREADY inhabited by Canaanites. The Canaanites and their descendants CONTINUED to reside there long after the Israelis had gone (about 2000 years ago). Sometime between then and now, along came some Arabs and intermarried with the indigenous population. The present palestinians are descended from these 2 lineages. So where (according to Rapier) did the Palestinians originate from then?

Laying claim on a territory based on your ancestors is very tricky business indeed. The continuous cross migration of humans throughout history means that your ancestors have probably been all over the place.

At some point in time, the ancestors of you and me and anyone else reading this post lived in Africa. Does that mean I have the right to return to Nigeria with my people and dispossess all the people now living there? Ho hum, I forgot YOU and your fellow colonial whitey friends already did something similar in "Rhodesia" right? LOL

Bulsajo

Joined: 16 Jan 2003

Posted: Sun Jun 11, 2006 6:48 pm Post subject:

Interested wrote:

So where (according to Rapier) did the Palestinians originate from then?

Aw, that's an easy one. He's already stated here in the past that they should all go back to Turkey....

mindmetoo

Joined: 02 Feb 2004

Posted: Sun Jun 11, 2006 9:29 pm Post subject:

Bulsajo wrote:

Interested wrote:

So where (according to Rapier) did the Palestinians originate from then?

Aw, that's an easy one. He's already stated here in the past that they should all go back to Turkey....

And don't forget us North Americans should all go back to Europe.

rapier

Joined: 16 Feb 2003

Posted: Mon Jun 12, 2006 6:50 am Post subject:

Interested wrote:

You will notice that the Palestinian interviewed says that his people trace their ancestry to Greece, Egypt and morrocco. they originate from the surrounding Arab world- about 150 times the size of israel.
Also, just out of interest..the Phillistines are not the same as modern day palestinians, as often mis-stated.

"the Philistines who appeared in Canaan ca. 1200 BCE and disappeared ca. 600 BCE and who were not Semites and never displaced the Israelites"
http://www.jhfc.duke.edu/fhi/events/seminar_series/2004archeo_meyers.php

The Israelites first invaded sometime between 1600 B.C. and 1300 B.C.
http://www.bartleby.com/86/21.html

The jews have held the longest unbroken presence in that land. God first promised israel to the Jews some 4000 years ago. A bit longer than you've been in the US or wherever I take it- where you displaced the indigenous people. On the other hand, Palestinians live freely in Israel now.Jews have also retained their language and culture unchanged in that time, and did not intermarry much with the surrounding peoples. Seems a pretty good claim to me.
The name Palestine originated from the Greek word pronounced Palaistina, which is derived from the Hebrew word pronounced pel-eh-sheth, meaning land of the Philistines (one of the most famous of whom was Goliath). The original word referred only to a small coastal territory corresponding to what is today Gaza, never to all of the land of Jacob, which God renamed Israel in the Bible. In modern times, the accepted meaning of Palestine was again greatly inflated after the First World War. Britain, which then held control of the land of Israel under a mandate of the League of Nations, revived the name as an official title for practically all of the land - from Dan to Beersheba, and from the Mediterranean to the Jordan River. And so it has been ever since.

So Interested..wherever you're from, your ancestors highly likely,haven't been there nearly as long as the Jews have been in Israel. Unless you're an Australian Aborigine- I'm guessing you're not.

rapier

Joined: 16 Feb 2003

Posted: Mon Jun 12, 2006 6:54 am Post subject:

mindmetoo wrote:

Bulsajo wrote:

Interested wrote:

So where (according to Rapier) did the Palestinians originate from then?

Aw, that's an easy one. He's already stated here in the past that they should all go back to Turkey....

And don't forget us North Americans should all go back to Europe.

So long as you sit in judgement over whites in Africa, it would seem fair.

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