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stumptown
Joined: 11 Apr 2005
Location: Paju: Wife beating capital of Korea
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(1) Depends. My public school job pays more than any hakwon I've seen.
2. Legal and overtime hours? Maybe...but they will be the same as the other hours that you work.
3. Six hours a day? (Not if you are working overtime)
4. Which is why you should avoid hakwons all together. Nothing worse than some freaky co-worker or a group that's all together in one clique. |
Same here, but without the overtime. Also, no other foreign teachers which if you've been here for a few years can be a bonus. At the hogwans I've always felt that it's impossible to avoid the other foreign teachers' daily dramas. |
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RachaelRoo
Joined: 15 Jul 2005
Location: Anywhere but Ulsan!
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| Posted: Mon Jun 12, 2006 6:06 am Post subject: |
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(1) Don't hagwons pay a bit more? (2) Plus they usually offer some easy (and legal) overtime hours on the side. (3)Also, at a hagwon, you're only there maybe 6 hours a day, and (4) you get to work with a lot of other foreigners.
I know as far as treatment of employees go, they're riskier, but I am in Korea so I can check the job out, and with a year of experience, I know what questions to ask.
Brento, can you PM me about where you've been looking, your demographic, and your experience? I'm trying to figure out what I should ask for salary wise in the Seoul area (I'm in Ulsan now). |
(numbers are mine)
(1) Depends. My public school job pays more than any hakwon I've seen.
2. Legal and overtime hours? Maybe...but they will be the same as the other hours that you work.
3. Six hours a day? (Not if you are working overtime)
4. Which is why you should avoid hakwons all together. Nothing worse than some freaky co-worker or a group that's all together in one clique. |
1) Where is your public school, what qualifications did you have to get the pay rate you're at, and what connections did you have to get the job?
2) I don't understand what you mean by this.
3) Yeah, 6 hours for my salary. Let's say I can get two hours a week of overtime at a hagwon at 25,000 an hour - that's still an extra 200,000 a month. So six hours a day, plus an extra 1-3 hours a week, and I can gross maybe 2.4 at a hagwon? Not bad and it does make a significant difference as far long term savings go.
4) As I have found out in many shocking and comical ways in the last ten months, you are entirely correct in pointing this out. |
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brento1138
Joined: 17 Nov 2004
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| Posted: Mon Jun 12, 2006 6:25 am Post subject: |
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Brento and Rachael- why are you both going for hogwons? Why not just get a public school job?
Hogwons are soooo 2004. |
Actually if they pay too much I have to wonder why...because if I know Koreans as well as I think I do, it's probably because they want to be able to treat you like a slave. So for that reason, I might accept a job that offers 2.1 million if the hours seem reasonable and it meets all my other criteria. |
You guys are so right. Someone told me yesterday, "why work tons more hours for 2.2 instead of 2.1???" That kind of woke me up. I mean, what's 100,000? That's not a whole friggin lot. It really depends on how much you get paid for hours worked, so now that's what I am looking for. Calculate hours worked for amount paid.
I also am looking for a public school, and have a recruiter trying to get me into SMOE. That seems pretty good, although I know all schools are different. But as RachelRoo said, there are many good points to being in a hogwan. Being with other foreigners, a little more money, less hours. Yet at the same time, try finding a hogwan with good vacation time. I know of some people who signed contracts with a public school that said "two weeks vacation" and ended up getting way more than that... I think something like six weeks or so it ended up being...
So, good luck to everyone else on this board. (not tooooo good luck, of course, cause I want a better job, hahaha... jk)
And I am getting about 6 crappy job offers a day. The worst was Berlitz, where I've heard that teachers have to take naps inside the school since they work such long hours!!! (they actually have beds in the school.. crazy... forget where that post was, but its somewhere here on Daves!!) |
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