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Hater Depot
Joined: 29 Mar 2005
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| Back home the main sports I watch are Yankees and Rangers broadcasts and the announcers call it evenly, right down the line. Obviously they know the hometown players better and have friendships with some of them but they will still delight in a beautiful goal against. |
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pegpig
Joined: 10 May 2005
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| Posted: Mon Jun 12, 2006 11:40 am Post subject: |
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| Guri Guy wrote: |
I am from Canada and I enjoy watching hockey. I have watched many international matches involving Canada. I will admit that the announcers can be homers to an extent but nowhere near as bad as those craptastic Korean announcers. Keep in mind, this is with Canada playing.
Now in games not involving Canada, I think Canadian hockey announcers call it pretty well. That is what I expect. Not immature childish garbage.
Anyway, like I said in another thread Schadenfreuden is a bad thing. (Taking pleasure in someone else's pain). Could come right back to them tomorrow night if they underestimate Togo.  |
Gotta agree. If one of 'our' guys does something crappy it's called like it is. I watched the game with the wife here in Canada and we got a pretty unbiased call. I'm not sure where the announcers were from, but they called it fairly squarely. The wife on the other hand can't call it fairly. When a Japanese guy went down it was 'ohno' action. When an Aussie went down she would wonder where the yellow card was. All this without either really seeing the play or a replay. I can't wait til tomorrow. More (much more) of the same. There's patriotism then there's this shit.
Fortunately, I don't give a crap either way who wins in the world cup - as long as the Oil win. |
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doggyji
Joined: 21 Feb 2006
Location: Toronto - Hamilton - Vineland - St. Catherines
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| Posted: Mon Jun 12, 2006 1:05 pm Post subject: |
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| What channel did you guys watch for the Japan vs. Australia match? I watched MBC and didn't notice any serious lack of 'impartiality.' Of course, the announcers got more hyped up during the last 8 minutes since it was such a drama of its own. No matter how many times you hear Koreans hate Japan and all, you are very unlikely to see those annoucers blatantly badmouthing or belittling Japan anyway. |
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manlyboy
Joined: 01 Aug 2004
Location: Darwin, Northern Territory, Australia
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| Posted: Mon Jun 12, 2006 2:41 pm Post subject: |
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| You know what else the Aussies had in common with rugby players? Not once did any of them dive to the ground and start acting like little girls with skinned knees. Of that I was particularly impressed. |
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hogwonguy1979
Joined: 22 Dec 2003
Location: the racoon den
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| Posted: Mon Jun 12, 2006 3:06 pm Post subject: |
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| I had espn2 on streamtv so I missed the fun. |
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tiger fancini
Joined: 21 Mar 2006
Location: Testicles for Eyes
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| Posted: Mon Jun 12, 2006 3:36 pm Post subject: |
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As I understand it, it's a broadcast in Korean for Koreans, so why should there be impartiality? |
Because it's an important part of sport, a tradition called sportsmanship, and an important part of classy sports broadcasting . |
This is a beautiful notion, and would have sounded even better if you'd managed to throw in "a sense of fair play." However, 90% of sports fans (especially football fans) are NOT impartial, and want teams that they don't like to get their ar$es kicked.
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It's like when you listen to a sports broadcast on the local radio, there's no pretense of impartiality |
There definitely is in New Zealand, as there should be. The announcers might very slyly let you know who they would like to win, but that's it. They will call the game properly and fairly. And the tv footage will reflect that too. And the sport audience don't just expect that, they demand it. |
If England are playing any of their major rivals (Germany, Argentina), then I am confident that the audience would be outraged if English commentators WERE impartial. It doesnt mean we want to go to war with these countries, we don't want to burn their flags in the streets and kill their citizens, we simply want to beat them at football. |
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khyber
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Compunction Junction
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| Posted: Mon Jun 12, 2006 4:09 pm Post subject: |
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| You know what else the Aussies had in common with rugby players? Not once did any of them dive to the ground and start acting like little girls with skinned knees. Of that I was particularly impressed. |
so, so very true. The Japanese looked like drunken ajosshis tripping and diving over nothing at all.
I thought the officiating in the first half was subpar but vastly improved in the second.
When you see those slow motion replays you could easily see the Kennedy's trip up (at the top of the box for the last show the goalie looked impressive on), he wasn't touched. Of course, the Japanese were dropping like flies.
I thought Oz deserved to win, their first half play was, i thought, pretty good. In the second half, however, they were TERRIBLE until about 80'. Suddenly it seemed like they werre interested again.
Did y'all noticed how many terrible missteps and giveaway there were? There was a lot of subpar soccer happenning there |
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Futooomsh
Joined: 31 Jul 2005
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Mon Jun 12, 2006 5:32 pm Post subject: |
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| hermes.trismegistus wrote: |
Umm... The Australian team had no fire. The Japanese looked like they wanted it. Australia was "all over" Japan, but they weren't playing well. They were sloppy, slow, undisciplined, and generally blah. They pushed people around, made tackles, then looked around in disbelief when the penalty was called.
I can't support a team that tries to play rugby with a football. You would never see such tactics from the likes of Brazil. They rely on skill. Australia clearly didn't have the skill, so they just regressed to sandbox diplomacy.
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Aussies had more fire than the Japs if you ask me. I don't know what game you were watching mate, but it certainly wasn't the Aussie v Japan game. As for playing rugby instead of football...I'm not even going to comment on that. Sounds like you have sour grapes.
Aussie Aussie Aussie!!! |
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jaganath69
Joined: 17 Jul 2003
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| Posted: Mon Jun 12, 2006 5:35 pm Post subject: |
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| Futooomsh wrote: |
| hermes.trismegistus wrote: |
Umm... The Australian team had no fire. The Japanese looked like they wanted it. Australia was "all over" Japan, but they weren't playing well. They were sloppy, slow, undisciplined, and generally blah. They pushed people around, made tackles, then looked around in disbelief when the penalty was called.
I can't support a team that tries to play rugby with a football. You would never see such tactics from the likes of Brazil. They rely on skill. Australia clearly didn't have the skill, so they just regressed to sandbox diplomacy.
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Aussies had more fire than the Japs if you ask me. I don't know what game you were watching mate, but it certainly wasn't the Aussie v Japan game. As for playing rugby instead of football...I'm not even going to comment on that. Sounds like you have sour grapes.
Aussie Aussie Aussie!!! |
Yeah, probably a Kiwi. |
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Futooomsh
Joined: 31 Jul 2005
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Mon Jun 12, 2006 5:37 pm Post subject: |
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| jaganath69 wrote: |
| Futooomsh wrote: |
| hermes.trismegistus wrote: |
Umm... The Australian team had no fire. The Japanese looked like they wanted it. Australia was "all over" Japan, but they weren't playing well. They were sloppy, slow, undisciplined, and generally blah. They pushed people around, made tackles, then looked around in disbelief when the penalty was called.
I can't support a team that tries to play rugby with a football. You would never see such tactics from the likes of Brazil. They rely on skill. Australia clearly didn't have the skill, so they just regressed to sandbox diplomacy.
Namaste. |
Aussies had more fire than the Japs if you ask me. I don't know what game you were watching mate, but it certainly wasn't the Aussie v Japan game. As for playing rugby instead of football...I'm not even going to comment on that. Sounds like you have sour grapes.
Aussie Aussie Aussie!!! |
Yeah, probably a Kiwi. |
Or a Pom, judging by the way the Wallabies slaughtered the Brits on Sunday night |
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SPINOZA
Joined: 10 Jun 2005
Location: $eoul
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| Posted: Mon Jun 12, 2006 5:58 pm Post subject: |
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| They definitely deserved to win. Japan were total *beep*, but the Aussies created a lot of chances and tried to score. That might sound odd to those of you less familiar with soccer (creating chances and trying to score is what they SHOULD be doing, right?), but trying to score and creating chances is to be commended in the modern game. They committed a few fouls, but they're not gonna qualify from their group playing one-touch total football. Hiddink has them playing to their strengths. That means being very competitive (a euphemism) when not in possession. Actually, at times they looked like an old-fashioned English club side (not so strange as many if not most of their players play in England). They did fantastically well, it's a brilliant result for them, and a draw against Croatia may be enough to take them through assuming they'll lose to Brazil. But, with a confidence-boosting result in their first game, they may feel they can beat Croatia. Granted I am glory-hunting a bit, but Australia has never done anything to offend me. I'll support 'em against anyone except England. I'll support the USA against anyone except England. Why should I not do? |
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ajgeddes
Joined: 28 Apr 2004
Location: Yongsan
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| Posted: Mon Jun 12, 2006 6:22 pm Post subject: |
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| They definitely deserved to win. Japan were total *beep*, but the Aussies created a lot of chances and tried to score. That might sound odd to those of you less familiar with soccer (creating chances and trying to score is what they SHOULD be doing, right?), but trying to score and creating chances is to be commended in the modern game. They committed a few fouls, but they're not gonna qualify from their group playing one-touch total football. Hiddink has them playing to their strengths. That means being very competitive (a euphemism) when not in possession. Actually, at times they looked like an old-fashioned English club side (not so strange as many if not most of their players play in England). They did fantastically well, it's a brilliant result for them, and a draw against Croatia may be enough to take them through assuming they'll lose to Brazil. But, with a confidence-boosting result in their first game, they may feel they can beat Croatia. Granted I am glory-hunting a bit, but Australia has never done anything to offend me. I'll support 'em against anyone except England. I'll support the USA against anyone except England. Why should I not do? |
What if Australia plays the USA? Root for a draw?  |
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hermes.trismegistus
Joined: 08 Sep 2005
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| Posted: Mon Jun 12, 2006 6:29 pm Post subject: |
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| Yeah, probably a Kiwi. |
I am neither a Kiwi nor do I have 'sour grapes'.
I made a comment regarding unsportsmanlike conduct on the part of the Australian team - which they have a long reputation for - and I fail to see the relevance in my nationality. Does it in some way negate the relevance of such poor quality, in your perspective?
Ad hominem destroys your credibility.
Namaste. |
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Futooomsh
Joined: 31 Jul 2005
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Mon Jun 12, 2006 7:03 pm Post subject: |
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| hermes.trismegistus wrote: |
| jaganath69 wrote: |
| Yeah, probably a Kiwi. |
I am neither a Kiwi nor do I have 'sour grapes'.
I made a comment regarding unsportsmanlike conduct on the part of the Australian team - which they have a long reputation for - and I fail to see the relevance in my nationality. Does it in some way negate the relevance of such poor quality, in your perspective?
Ad hominem destroys your credibility.
Namaste. |
I'm not sure that they have a long history of 'unsportsmanlike' behaviour...apart from the Japanese coach carrying on about it this week.....do you even realise the last time Australia made it to the World Cup!? |
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hermes.trismegistus
Joined: 08 Sep 2005
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| Posted: Mon Jun 12, 2006 7:16 pm Post subject: |
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| Futooomsh wrote: |
| I'm not sure that they have a long history of 'unsportsmanlike' behaviour...apart from the Japanese coach carrying on about it this week.....do you even realise the last time Australia made it to the World Cup!? |
Of course. But the world has more footy competitions than the WC.
I'm not the first person to notice that Aussies play football like they do rugby. Rough and tumble, with a wee sprinkle of skill. They play with no finesse.
They'll get schooled when they play Brazil.
Namaste. |
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