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Canada's "low" unemployment rate
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Octavius Hite



Joined: 28 Jan 2004
Location: Househunting, looking for a new bunker from which to convert the world to homosexuality.

PostPosted: Sun Jun 11, 2006 8:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So, I have lived and/or worked in 6 provinces or territories, Im so tired of people from any provincing whining and crying about having to move to find work. For generations people from NFLD had to do it and now Gas and Oil will change that and people will move out there. The same goes for all provinces and territories. The population ebbs and flows, no one should expect a job which allows them to stay in the same spot for their whole lives, get a life.
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some waygug-in



Joined: 25 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Sun Jun 11, 2006 8:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Too much coffee? Why are you all defensive?

I was just pointing out that the ecomomic "boom" is far from universal.

As for getting a life.....yeah, I'm working on that. My crappy little hagwan job is still a way better option for me than going home and having to pay all those taxes, buy a car, buy insurance, pay rent, pay repairs, by gasoline, move all over the country chasing jobs, pay taxes on all the above.

Again, is it any wonder so many Canadians are in Korea?
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Octavius Hite



Joined: 28 Jan 2004
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 11, 2006 8:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry for the defensivness, I went to High School and Cape Breton and man all I heard was "the government should make jobs for us so we can stay here" "we are owed jobs" " they should move government jobs from Ontario to here" etc etc etc. Our constitution garuntees us the right to move from any province to any other province for any reason whatsoever. So I always said to my Cape Breton friends, buck up and prepare to move your butt, for christ's sake its only Halifax!

And the reason there are so many Canadians in Korea is because we were all feed the lie the university is better than college and none of us went to trade school, so now we all come to korea and immigrant labour moves to Canada to weld.

Also most of the Canadian guys cant get play from hot chicks like they can here, from dork to stud in a 12 hour flight!
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some waygug-in



Joined: 25 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Sun Jun 11, 2006 8:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Laughing

Too true.
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bucheon bum



Joined: 16 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Sun Jun 11, 2006 9:19 pm    Post subject: Re: Canada's "low" unemployment rate Reply with quote

RachaelRoo wrote:
Canada is still an inhospitable economic environment for the average person.


Now honestly, where in the world is it more hospitable economically?

The UK? Scandanavia? The baltic states (strictly job wise, not overall economy there)? Anywhere else??

USA? I'm leaning towards no.

If you think times are bad in Canada now, yikes.
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mindmetoo



Joined: 02 Feb 2004

PostPosted: Sun Jun 11, 2006 9:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

some waygug-in wrote:


Whoever it was that said Saskatchewan is no longer a "have not" province hasn't checked lately. Like many have said, Saskatchewan is a good place to be .....from". Shocked


The latest unemployment report for Saskatchewan:

Saskatchewan: 4.9 per cent

That's remarkable.

I realize unemployment is not a realistic measure of true unemployment. For example, it does not measure people who have given up looking for work. However, as a relative measure I don't see it as a problem. 12% means you're really going to have a hard time. 4.9% means you're going to have a much easier time.

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All of May's employment increase was in full-time positions, as about 151,000 new full-time jobs were created. That monthly increase was the largest on record.

The largest employment gains came in finance, insurance, real estate and leasing, health care and social assistance, and public administration.


This does not sound like McJob creation.
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Bulsajo



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 11, 2006 9:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm pretty sure the stats have been compiled this way for a long time, so the record unemployment rate (lowest since '74) hasn't suddenly appeared because there is a sneaky new way to count jobs.
So what BB is saying (and MMT too) is dead on- if you can't make it in Canada right now, then you can't make it in Canada.
That doesn't neccessarily mean you can rush home from Korea and suddenly find employers bowing down before you- experience, a good r�sum�, and marketing yourself still go a long way, just as they always have.
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mindmetoo



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 11, 2006 10:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

And only in Canada would we develop a self-defeatist attitude about record employment and job creation. What is that?
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Octavius Hite



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thats cause there are 3 types of canadians:

1. Die-hard love everything about it and everybody else is wrong patriots (that would be me).

2. I don't care I'm just going to work and then go home and get high, i dont vote and i dont give a s**t!

3. I really dislike the fairness and equity of everything. Affrimitive action is wrong, multiculturism is wrong, I can't get a job because all the brown people take them. Indians get too much money, they should just shut up and enjoy not paying taxes. I hate Canada and I want to move to Texas or California (or Korea) and never look back. These people are are usually white people who have been fed the line about welfare mothers and immigrants. (And they couldn't get laid in Canada either).

The last two are the ones who doubt and knock their own country all the time. They can stay in Korea because we don't want them back!
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some waygug-in



Joined: 25 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Mon Jun 12, 2006 1:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Man, I don't know about some of you people.

Sure many of us could go home and find a job in Alberta, but not everyone is cut out to work in the oil patch.

Regarding Saskatchewan, how many of those jobs were summer jobs?

How many of them were minimum wage or only slightly better?

I have lived there and left enough times to know that it is far better to leave and find a job and that's why the unemployment rate is low........
everyone left. Wink

Of course that's an exaggeration, but it's not too far from the truth. Saskatchewan businesses simply can not afford to pay the high wages that their Alberta counterparts are able to do. (at least a good many of them)

Everyone who is able (and some who aren't) are in Alberta working. The one's who can't leave or who don't want to are left to take up the few, low paying jobs that are left. This happens every summer in Saskatchewan and this year it will be even more true because there are even more "big money" opportunities in Alberta. I even heard that some companies are paying Saskatchewan boys relocation expenses because the demand for labour is so high in Alberta right now.

Some will come back in winter, as many of the jobs will be seasonal, some will come back hoping things will be better only to find that they aren't. So the cycle repeats next year and so on.
Some will leave permanently because they have been through it enough times to know better.
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Hollywoodaction



Joined: 02 Jul 2004

PostPosted: Mon Jun 12, 2006 6:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mindmetoo wrote:
yoda wrote:
Worried about gettting a job in Canada? Get a trade. They all pay $20.00 or more an hour and the market is red hot. They cannot find enough skilled tradespeople right now. What I think will really hurt people is the cost of buying a house. It's gone through the roof just about everywhere.


That's another excellent point. Get your BA, round yourself out. But if you can only get McJobs, go back to college and get a skill too. It's only two years. What are oil workers making in Alberta? $80K a year? I have a friend with a university degree who went to George Brown and got his chef's papers. Now the thing is, when you're in a work field where you have a university degree and few don't and you've got some natural smarts, you can go pretty far. He does very well for himself. Chefs don't make great money for a long time but if you have brains, you can move up the food chain and make a great living as a hotel sous chef. Even better your skills are 100% portable and you can pretty much pick any place in Canada or even the world to live and work.

But seriously, even in a hot economy, if you have a BA in English, no one is going to hand you a job as writer for the CBC. You have to start at the bottom. You may have to start out as a receptionist. The key is employers notice your smarts, notice you can handle complex jobs, and promote you. Yeah, if a person has a self-defeatist attitude and searches for the lead in a silver cloud, well, welcome to the world of hagwon teaching. The person's a good fit.




Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing

A great living as a hotel sous-chef!? The odds of that happening are pretty slim. You'd start off as a non-unionized employee, making 10 bucks an hour at best. Turnover is pretty high, for obvious reasons. Besides, if you want to make it in a hotel restaurant, you need to be the type of chef who thinks that making sandwiches, and sandwiches only, isn't a mind-numbing experience. Most skilled chefs simply can't hack making crap food and quit long before they make it to sous-chef in a hotel (think of it as putting an opera singer in a Korean boyband), and return to low paying jobs at top rated restaurants. I know someone who was a chef at one of the best restaurants in Canada. The waitresses made more on tips at one table (serving food that he prepared, nonetheless) than what he earned all week.
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mindmetoo



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 12, 2006 3:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hollywoodaction wrote:

A great living as a hotel sous-chef!? The odds of that happening are pretty slim.


The odds of making partner in a CA firm are pretty slim too. But my friend does pretty well.
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Moldy Rutabaga



Joined: 01 Jul 2003
Location: Ansan, Korea

PostPosted: Wed Jun 14, 2006 5:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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And the reason there are so many Canadians in Korea is because we were all feed the lie the university is better than college and none of us went to trade school, so now we all come to korea and immigrant labour moves to Canada to weld.

Also most of the Canadian guys cant get play from hot chicks like they can here, from dork to stud in a 12 hour flight!

True. One of my best friends quit university in disgust and went to Calgary to become an airplane mechanic. Now he makes more than me and has a house, while his friend student-loan boy had to go to Korea.

But the world has changed a lot in twenty years. In 1985 I wanted to be a VCR technician! Try not to be too hard on yourselves. Who had a crystal ball?

Ken:>
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some waygug-in



Joined: 25 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Wed Jun 14, 2006 5:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

For those of you who are proclaiming the vast untapped opportunities which must surely now be available in the Canadian job market (and I'm not saying that there aren't any), I have one question for you:

Why are you not boarding the next plane off to the great white north yourself?

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That's what I thought.
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Bulsajo



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 14, 2006 5:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can't speak for the others but...
Wink
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