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alphalfa



Joined: 12 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Mon Jun 12, 2006 12:05 am    Post subject: public schools ASP - Reply with quote

Hi,

To those of you working in public schools in the after-school programs :

Question 1 : teaching hours - do you work from 1pm to 6pm M-Fri for a
total of 25 teaching hours? do you get paid extra for doing
open classes in addition to your regular teaching schedule?
Question 2 : Do you provide lunch boxes for the first and second grade
students in the after-school program?
Question 3 : Do you have to go on English camp trips (2 nights,3 days)
during summer vacation?Do you get extra pay for this?


Regarding question 1 , I would like to know what the standard weekly teaching hours are for working in public schools? 22-25 hrs? OT is anything over these hours? @@ I've had to do open classes in the mornings and teach my regular classes in the afternoon - 7 hours a day
for 6 consecutive teaching days on at least two different occasions. I did
not get any additional compensation for this.

Regarding question 2 , as you know first and second graders finish at
12 oclock (noon) without having had lunch in the school cafeteria. Instead they go home and perhaps then go to a hagwon. My supervisor has suggested??(decided for us?) that I and my Korean co-worker have lunch together with the students in the classroom and clean up after them before class begins at 1pm. You get the picture...

Regarding question 3 , I was informed by my supervisor that the camp in July is something I SHOULD attend. I told her I would not make a decision :UNTIL she provided me with camp details and agrees to pay me compensation for that time. She showed me nothing and told me nothing about camp details and she wasn't keen on MY receiving extra pay for attending the camp - BUT she wanted me to attend. I made it clear to her that : I will not attend the camp for free and that if I agree to go (and receive extra pay) I COULD be available for much of the day schedule (until 7 or 8pm) but I am not prepared to stay overnite.


My situation is looking more and more like what occurs at a hagwon.
ARRRGGGGGG!!!!
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Yu_Bum_suk



Joined: 25 Dec 2004

PostPosted: Mon Jun 12, 2006 12:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Were you hired directly by the school or are you farmed out by someone else?
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alphalfa



Joined: 12 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Mon Jun 12, 2006 6:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In answer to your inquiry, NO I was not hired directly by the school. A private educational company by the name of DAEKYO CO. overseas the after school programs in various public schools in the Incheon area. They continue to actively recruit new teachers. The current deal DAEKYO has with the elemenary school I'm at is for three years.(2005-2008).

I have always wondered how a private company can operate a language after school program INSIDE a public school. The working conditions are NO different than those found in a private hagwon.

I understand with public school contracts teachers can take a two week unpaid leave after completing their first year contract upon re-signing. I pointed this out to my supervisor - she wasn't aware of it and besides it was not possible she said. WHATEVER......yadda yadda yadda.

Whenever we have a meeting with the supervisor , the supervisor always appears to illicit our opinions on matters in a way that APPEARS like we have a choice in the matter at hand. We don't. The supervisor gives NO thought to what the teachers should receive in return for doing certain things. Clearly, this person shows no respect for us. ANY respectful person would propose an offer which would include some form of compensation for participants - a sign of respect. No freebies , time is money... a concept foreign to my supervisor.

Presenting inadequate requests to do something with a pre-conceived assumption that people will freely accept them is RETARDED. Was it Sean Connery or Nicholas Cage who said " assumptions are the mother of all
f##kups".
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