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[Yelman]

I just sent my prescreen test to a Korea School........they ranted and raved and rebuked me for asking for 11 things in my contract...wowww
these Koreans are an angry bunch....either take their contract or off urself...
as the email stated NO RED CARPET FOR ANY TEACHER.....i left out the Brass Band...asking for that might be a bit too much i think.

[Yelman]

Dear Sirs,

I have performed research on Teaching English in Asia

Under the present precepts regarding employment in this field, I must guard my affairs closely.

Conditions of Sevice

1-----A prepaid air ticket assigned in my name only and in my physical custody (non
refundable and tax paid air ticket back to the United States of America, Chicago
O�Hare International Airport).

2---- A pre-signed employment release letter from your company and or
school, held in my physical custody.

3---- Physical proof of accommodations to be used by me only. (No shared quarters or
bathes). Physical proof shall be obtained by photos and supplied by your company
and or school that shows the inside of the living area as well as the outside and
surrounding area of the accommodations to be provided for me by your company
and or school. Your company and or school shall cover all bills relating to utilities
and maintenance and damages that occur naturally, be it by wear and tear or by acts
or forces of nature. This will include all acts of vandalism whether verifiable or not.


4---- All means and reasons of travel to and from your company and or school shall be
covered by your company and or school. Reimbursement shall be covered daily by
your company and or school.

5---- I shall not except any form of Bonuses that are intended or worded in any manner
and or to be considered special pay for completion of services by your company
and or school.

5b--- All such mentioned �Bonuses� will be added per month to my salary until
completion of said services agreed upon by me and your company and or school.

6---- All manners regarding income obtained thru my services and paid by your company
and or school shall be in a check payable to me and showing all government
deducted taxes at all levels of government during the length of my services with
your company and or school.

7--- At no time will your company and or school posses or hold my passport,
visas and or educational documents deemed �ORIGINAL or MASTER� by
me. If your company and or school requires signed and or notarized transcripts from
my university or other ex employers, your company and or school shall bear all
financial burdens in obtaining these documents. I will supply addresses and
authorization letters.

8--- I shall in no manner regarding financial burdens deemed HIDDEN COST not
covered or mentioned in a contract between your company and or school with me be
held accountable towards my salary.

9--- At no time shall my working conditions, environment, hours, schedule and or
locations be changed without my expressed approval in writing. Your company and
or school will be allowed to make temporary emergency changes due to illnesses or
lack of teaching staff that may last up to 5 working days �working days are
Monday thru Friday� without warning. Any other changes lasting more than 5
working days must be approved by me.


10---Your company and or school shall hold the same rights as me regarding termination
of services, be it written or verbal with or without notice.
A Gentleman�s agreement will be offered pertaining to but not limited to
Termination of Services by either party. This �Gentlemen�s Agreement� will be
in acted between me and your company and or school covering all areas of legal
and or morality regarding treatment and honorable respect towards each party.
This Gentleman�s agreement covers only the area of Termination without
notification in writing 30 days prier to termination of services between me and your
company.

12---Any violations of implied wordings and or meanings will be deemed suitable
grounds for immediate termination of services by either party.

If you feel you can honor my conditions then we can begin working together.

Thank You

Gary Hilburn
[email protected]

[ttompatz]

[guangho]

[Yelman]

the whole thing is a wish list....If the employer understands somethings have to met by both sides.
I read a korean contract yesterday and id have to say Sex Offenders recieved more respect.
Im shocked as he!!.

im sitting here with another email from this korean school...to delete or not to delete...that is the question

[ontheway]

Yelman or Gary Hilburn,

I read over your list. Twice. It's unbelievable. There is not one item on your list that would be accepted by any employer anywhere. Where did you get the idea for such demands?

I do hope you will send this list to every employer of English teachers in Korea. It will show them just how reasonable most of us are and how lucky they are to have us. After all, they could have you.



Really now. You should spend more time reading and learning and less time posting here on Dave's. Many reasonable contracts have been posted here on Dave's. None of them have any of the things you are asking for.

If you really want to come to Korea to teach English, earn some money and save a lot of money, you have to understand that there are no guarantees in life and you have to take some risks. You have to have some humility and courage. You have to respect the culture you are coming to. You have to be reasonable.

[Yelman]

i think i get the drift in here about teaching in korea.

i dont need you to tell me what working condition i desire....now do i?

and for your information..i have used this basic format in my English company in Thailand......no schools refused it......perhaps you dont require much...

ill run the risk of living in the US before ill be screwed in Korea.

[Pak Yu Man]

You missed one reasonable demand.

13. Every night I want a cute Korean girl to be brought to my house.

14. Why not ask for some Crazy amount of money while you're at it.

You're not going to get any of that shit. So if you're going to be smoking crack and dreaming...you might as well dream big.

[Yelman]

ease up on the crack Mr.

its a guide line i use..if koreans dont want to meet my expectation they can off themselves.

Korea isnt the only country looking for teachers.

I sometimes wonder why you guys go to Asia....does teaching really sux where you come?

[Canucksaram]

Any school that hired you, Yelman, would be the worse off for having done it.

You can neither spell well nor write well. You seem barely literate, in fact, so what deludes you into imagining that you have anything to offer any ESL students?

S.F.A., that's what!

[Gideon]

Pak Yu Man wrote:

[Hater Depot]

16. Employer shall purchase a weather-controlling machine to ensure that employee will never have to commute in the rain.

[Gideon]

17. Employer must give teacher more than 5 minutes notice when making a schedule change. If in the event of this happening the employee will receive monetary compensation for punative damages and undue stress.

[PaperTiger]

You guys are nuts! Most of the things this is asking for are not only reasonable...some of them are law. I know many of you guys think you have to settle for 1.7 or 1.8 and being treated like some subhuman serf, but if that's your situation...you LET it happen to you by not asking around and buying into rediculous work conditions.

He DID stipulate some of these things are wishful thinking, but since you will no doubt be an E-2 visa holder...I think you're over-estimating your leverage as a first-year teacher, unless you've got credentials up the ying-yang. In that case, you should have no problem getting everything you've indicated. I've known several people who have done the same thing. Anyone who shares accomodations with someone they don't know or like, works for less than 2 million, and lets someone have custody of their documentation is a sucker and is in need of some serious guidance.

The letter of release clause is way off base. Never happen.

Plus, you have to understand that contracts are nothing more than informal "guidelines" that most foreigners take for legally enforcable documents...bait traps with cheese for mice, bait traps for naive whities with contracts.

[poet13]

18. employer agrees to keep a substitute teacher on hand at all times when primary employee is present just in case primary employee doesnt feel like working.