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K-in-C

Joined: 27 Mar 2003 Location: Heading somewhere
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Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2006 4:35 pm Post subject: Gift Ideas |
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A couple of years ago I bought a gold plated set of mini chopsticks and a baby spoon. It was around 20,000 won. I believe I bought it in the jewelery section of a Home Plus or E-Mart.
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Juregen
Joined: 30 May 2006
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Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2006 5:04 pm Post subject: |
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If it's a friend, or a close aquaintance, then fine. I don't understand this inviting people you don't even hang out with to these parties.
"Oh, hi. I know that we don't do anything toghether except when you and other co-workers came to my house during your hagwon honeymoon, but please come to my baby's party/wedding. I need your money and/or gifts. We will pay for the meal, but will make out like bandits when everything's accounted for. Plus it will make us feel high on the social ladder if the most people possible show up. Makes our baby important to the world. We won't be hanging out after that, really." |
I guess differences in culture are not for you....
We should all act like Americans, or whatever nationality you prefer .....
Try to accept that Koreans have a different background and interpret social interaction differently. Social position is very important for Koreans, it has to do with their past. Try understanding it and you might see some similarities wit hyour own culture. |
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princess
Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Location: soul of Asia
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Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2006 7:39 pm Post subject: |
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| Just give the ring. It is cheap enough and it keeps things at work nice. The lousy co-worker will poison your relationship with the other Koreans if you cheap out. It is usually just better when they don't invite us. I always lie and say I am busy for those things and then they stop inviting me..and I am happy. |
If it's a friend, or a close aquaintance, then fine. I don't understand this inviting people you don't even hang out with to these parties.
"Oh, hi. I know that we don't do anything toghether except when you and other co-workers came to my house during your hagwon honeymoon, but please come to my baby's party/wedding. I need your money and/or gifts. We will pay for the meal, but will make out like bandits when everything's accounted for. Plus it will make us feel high on the social ladder if the most people possible show up. Makes our baby important to the world. We won't be hanging out after that, really." |
I think people invite people they are not close to just to get presents. I think people everywhere just love to get gifts, so they invite just anyone. |
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tzechuk

Joined: 20 Dec 2004
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Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2006 8:44 pm Post subject: |
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| bellum99 wrote: |
| Just give the ring. It is cheap enough and it keeps things at work nice. The lousy co-worker will poison your relationship with the other Koreans if you cheap out. It is usually just better when they don't invite us. I always lie and say I am busy for those things and then they stop inviting me..and I am happy. |
It's not that cheap - have you seen the gold prices lately?
One small ring weighs one *dun* and each *dun* is now 80,000 won.
50,000 in an envelope is cheaper. |
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tzechuk

Joined: 20 Dec 2004
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Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2006 8:48 pm Post subject: |
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| princess wrote: |
| I think people invite people they are not close to just to get presents. I think people everywhere just love to get gifts, so they invite just anyone. |
Or because people really want others to share in their happiness???
We invited mostly close friends and associates - with the exception of Wangja but he now counts as a very good friend - but we invited these people because we really want them to come and join us in the festivites. With it being a Saturday and in Seoul, a few of our Daejeon friends couldn't join us and that was OK. They gave us presents but we told them they didn't need to bring anything - in fact, we told people that they didn't need to give us anything, we just wanted them to come see our gorgeous little girl.
Princess - the more I read your post, the more I have come to realise that you are both a cynical person and a pessimist. It's amazing that you last as long as you have in Korea.
FYI - I don't normally call people names, but you are really getting on my nerves with your ill-thought out comments. |
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riley
Joined: 08 Feb 2003 Location: where creditors can find me
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Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2006 9:55 pm Post subject: |
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I just wanted to say that Letty has a very interesting and thoughtful godfather.
As for me, for my neice's 100 day, that was for close family and we bought a small gold ring. Though considering my sister in law turned all the gold into money and she got less money than we paid for, I think she would have appreciated cash more.
For her one year birthday, we gave money. I would have liked to buy something but it didn't happen. At that one, there were a lot more people and it was family and friends.
Both times we got a free meal and it was nice food, or at least better than a wedding. |
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Jasobang
Joined: 11 Dec 2005 Location: Bucheon
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Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2006 11:33 pm Post subject: |
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It's not about getting gifts or money. It's about having friends and family and co-workers (culture) sharing in the big occasion.
My son had his first birthday last month. When it was said and done it ended up costing us money. A meal usually runs between 25 ~35,000 per. Top that off with the thank you gifts, balloon artist and videos/pictures and there's not much left, if anything.
It's not about the money. If you think that it is, then you haven't actually gone through it personally. From the outside it may look like it, but from the inside it is far from it. |
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Pak Yu Man

Joined: 02 Jun 2005 Location: The Ida galaxy
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Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2006 11:40 pm Post subject: |
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| A few years ago, back in 2001, I went to a coworker's baby's first birthday. I put 5,000 in an envelope and got the cold shoulder the following week at work. Guess it wasn't good enough. She was only a coworker, though, not a close friend or family member. |
Lol. No wonder. If you gave someone $5 back home...that would be an insult there. |
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rothkowitz
Joined: 27 Apr 2006
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Posted: Thu Jun 15, 2006 12:01 am Post subject: |
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Money is always welcome...decent amount though.Maybe follow the same amount rule as you would for a wedding.ie 30.000 for whatsisname?and 50.000 if yr good friends.
Let them figure out what to do with the dosh.You don't have to go present hunting. |
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teachingld2004
Joined: 29 Mar 2004
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Posted: Thu Jun 15, 2006 12:39 am Post subject: baby's first birthday. |
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I went to a 1 yr old's birthday party, and had a really good time. The person who invited me was the baby's father. He is in my adult conversation class.
At the party, only one other person spoke English, and that was the assistant pastor of their church.
I felt funny going, but I knew I should go. My adult class is wonderful. The people who come want to be thre, and they have quite a high level of spoken English. I was invited not because I was a teacher, but because he always talks about his daughter, and he was telling me about the party every step of the way. I said it sounds wonderful. So, he invited me. He said he would love it if I came. Then I could see the baby, and also I can get to see a piece of his culture.
The week after I printed out on foto paper some digital pictures I had taken. I think they liked that just as much, or even more then my gift.
I was not invited so I would give a present, getting invited was an act of love on his part. HIs wife loved my gift, She was quite touched I came, and the only words inEnglish she knows are most likey "Hello", "Thank you", and "How are you?"
I didn't want to give a gold ring, I am not korean. It was not expected of me. I hadn't a clue what to give, and people here on Daves answered me. One poster told me he got a cuddly toy. Some one else said English books.
GIve a nice present Go to the party and have fun. You do not have to spend 50,000 won. Spend 20 or 25. thats fine. Take some pictures.
Send them to your friends at home. PUt them in an album on a picture site and send it to him. Thats nice.
Have fun.If anything, it will be a korean experience. |
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cazador83

Joined: 28 Feb 2006 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Thu Jun 15, 2006 4:08 am Post subject: |
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| princess wrote: |
| A few years ago, back in 2001, I went to a coworker's baby's first birthday. I put 5,000 in an envelope and got the cold shoulder the following week at work. Guess it wasn't good enough. She was only a coworker, though, not a close friend or family member. |
wow. i'd give the cold shoulder too! that's pretty insulting dude...even if you were in a western country. |
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jacl
Joined: 31 Oct 2005
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Posted: Thu Jun 15, 2006 7:49 am Post subject: |
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| jacl wrote: |
If it's a friend, or a close aquaintance, then fine. I don't understand this inviting people you don't even hang out with to these parties.
"Oh, hi. I know that we don't do anything toghether except when you and other co-workers came to my house during your hagwon honeymoon, but please come to my baby's party/wedding. I need your money and/or gifts. We will pay for the meal, but will make out like bandits when everything's accounted for. Plus it will make us feel high on the social ladder if the most people possible show up. Makes our baby important to the world. We won't be hanging out after that, really." |
I guess differences in culture are not for you....
We should all act like Americans, or whatever nationality you prefer .....
Try to accept that Koreans have a different background and interpret social interaction differently. Social position is very important for Koreans, it has to do with their past. Try understanding it and you might see some similarities wit hyour own culture. |
Whatever. When it comes to greed and ignorance, I draw the line.
In this case, it depends on the situation. I don't have a culture superiority complex. If you think it's good to selfishly invite people that you obviously ignore/don't try to talk to at work, and want nothing to do with on even a minimal regular basis, then fill in the blank with whatever assumption you can come up with. |
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tzechuk

Joined: 20 Dec 2004
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Posted: Thu Jun 15, 2006 7:50 pm Post subject: |
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jacl... it is common for Korean people to invite the whole office to a large celebration function like that - even if you were ignored at other times.
It's just not a done deal to pick and choose who you'll invite and won't invite because of the *face* (pride) issue folks here has.
I think it is rather unfair to call it greed......
Just what I think. |
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princess
Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Location: soul of Asia
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Posted: Thu Jun 15, 2006 8:09 pm Post subject: |
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| Pak Yu Man wrote: |
| princess wrote: |
| A few years ago, back in 2001, I went to a coworker's baby's first birthday. I put 5,000 in an envelope and got the cold shoulder the following week at work. Guess it wasn't good enough. She was only a coworker, though, not a close friend or family member. |
Lol. No wonder. If you gave someone $5 back home...that would be an insult there. |
People give what they can afford, though. |
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princess
Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Location: soul of Asia
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Posted: Thu Jun 15, 2006 8:16 pm Post subject: |
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| princess wrote: |
| I think people invite people they are not close to just to get presents. I think people everywhere just love to get gifts, so they invite just anyone. |
Or because people really want others to share in their happiness???
We invited mostly close friends and associates - with the exception of Wangja but he now counts as a very good friend - but we invited these people because we really want them to come and join us in the festivites. With it being a Saturday and in Seoul, a few of our Daejeon friends couldn't join us and that was OK. They gave us presents but we told them they didn't need to bring anything - in fact, we told people that they didn't need to give us anything, we just wanted them to come see our gorgeous little girl.
Princess - the more I read your post, the more I have come to realise that you are both a cynical person and a pessimist. It's amazing that you last as long as you have in Korea.
FYI - I don't normally call people names, but you are really getting on my nerves with your ill-thought out comments. |
I am sorry if I stepped on your toes. You are a one in a million person to tell people you don't expect gifts. A guy once invited me to a party and when I got there, it turned out to be his birthday party. I felt bad for not having a gift. He said he told me it was only a party so no one would feel obligated to bring him gifts. He was also a rare person. But what Jacl said about inviting those you have nothing to do with...I just couldn't invite people to a birthday party if I am not close friends/close aqauintances, etc with them. I would feel like I was using them for gifts. |
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