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DHX



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 14, 2006 3:00 pm    Post subject: How much do Koreans earn? Reply with quote

Just curious about the average wages of Korean people. How much do they earn per month? For example, a Korean teacher, doctor, labourer.

And by comparison, is 2.3 million Won enough to lead a comfortable lifestyle? in Busan?
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Unposter



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 14, 2006 3:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

From what I have read in Korean newspapers, the Korean economy, like most economies, has a huge and growing income gap, so it all depends. I believe I read that the average salary in Seoul is around 3.0 million a month. Salaries are higher in all urban areas, and, well, in the countryside, having money is a good thing!

There are some very, very rich people here and some very poor people.

From what I can tell, the average English teacher in Korea makes within the normal range of salaries for Koreans, though a tad bit on the low end. But, for single and free people, it is quite good! You should be able to live well on 2 million a month.
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mindmetoo



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 14, 2006 5:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If one is working at a chaebol, you're doing well. However, don't let the "high" salaries fool you. Chaebols tend to do what the state does back at home. Koreans pay 3-4% income tax but then there's a pay as you go system. Want to send your kid to public school? Cough it up. Health care? Cough it up.

The system is designed so one person in the household (ie the man) can earn a wage that will allow him to support a wife, a couple kids, and retired parents. They even have nice little vacation resorts for their employees. Maybe they even give things like low interest loans or housing support. The Japanese corps do but housing prices might not be so out of the world like Tokyo. Anyway, for this largess, the chaebol expects the guy to give his life to the chaebol. Ten to twelve hour work days, rah rah company crap, having to drink with the boss when you'd rather just go home, keeping your mouth shut and respecting your boss, etc.

Your haggy salary might not seem high in comparison but a) you get a free apartment b) you're working part time hours c) you're rarely expected to follow many conventions or drink late into the night with the boss.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 14, 2006 5:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I sense Real Reality coming soon.
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mindmetoo



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 14, 2006 10:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

zappadelta wrote:
I sense Real Reality coming soon.


Can you imagine how long his paste-an-url thing is these days?
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JongnoGuru



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 14, 2006 10:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So you call them "urls" (earls) then? Not "U.R.L.s"? That's the convention?

Until RR comes along with the link parade, here's a summary of what we'll see:

How much do Koreans earn? More than us and way more than they're worth. They've priced themselves out of the global market in all but two or three industries, and the country itself will go down in history as a mouse that roared in the late 20th century, a small footnote in the shadow of China's world dominance. Oh yeah, and they're a country of liars and they all want to emigrate.

(did I forget anything?)
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flotsam



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 14, 2006 10:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JongnoGuru wrote:

(did I forget anything?)


emigrate...Don't kid yourself: uri nara is nobody's nara. (Which is just the way the Zionists want it.)
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mindmetoo



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 15, 2006 5:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

JongnoGuru wrote:
So you call them "urls" (earls) then? Not "U.R.L.s"? That's the convention?

Until RR comes along with the link parade, here's a summary of what we'll see:

How much do Koreans earn? More than us and way more than they're worth. They've priced themselves out of the global market in all but two or three industries, and the country itself will go down in history as a mouse that roared in the late 20th century, a small footnote in the shadow of China's world dominance. Oh yeah, and they're a country of liars and they all want to emigrate.

(did I forget anything?)


They don't like us dating their dwindling supply of women.
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nautilus



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 15, 2006 5:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Unposter wrote:

From what I can tell, the average English teacher in Korea makes within the normal range of salaries for Koreans, though a tad bit on the low end. But, for single and free people, it is quite good! You should be able to live well on 2 million a month.


I get 2.3
Apparently thats more than the korean teachers at my school.
Supposedly.
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stumptown



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 15, 2006 5:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What about the corporate bonuses? Someone told me that corporate employees will get upwards of 5 times their monthly salaries on the lunar new year. Any truth to this?
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helly



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 15, 2006 8:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

5 times is pretty high, though that may have been the case in earlier years when the chaebol was more dominant than it is now.

An extra month salary at chusok and/or sollal and some drippings around other family events (funerals, father's 60th birthday, etc) might be written into the employment agreement. (its pretty amazing what gets written into collective bargaining agreements.)

Even then, that money is often included in the "average monthly salary" figures, as is severance pay, because it is considered guaranteed.
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mindmetoo



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 15, 2006 3:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

helly wrote:
5 times is pretty high, though that may have been the case in earlier years when the chaebol was more dominant than it is now.

An extra month salary at chusok and/or sollal and some drippings around other family events (funerals, father's 60th birthday, etc) might be written into the employment agreement. (its pretty amazing what gets written into collective bargaining agreements.)

Even then, that money is often included in the "average monthly salary" figures, as is severance pay, because it is considered guaranteed.


I've been at companies where a yearly $5,000-$10,000 profit sharing/bonus aren't uncommon. 5x might not be regular but not beyond believability.

I have a friend who used to work for city hall, every few months they would get some kind of extra pay packet. She explained that it was, in essence, an official bribe. To keep employees from trying to line their own pockets with bribes, there was some tradition of giving city employees and extra pay day in lieu of a bribe.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 15, 2006 4:17 pm    Post subject: Re: How much do Koreans earn? Reply with quote

DHX wrote:
And by comparison, is 2.3 million Won enough to lead a comfortable lifestyle? in Busan?

definitely especially if you are getting housing.
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Return Jones



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 15, 2006 5:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

stumptown wrote:
What about the corporate bonuses? Someone told me that corporate employees will get upwards of 5 times their monthly salaries on the lunar new year. Any truth to this?


When I taught (legally, btw!) at a large Chaebol, I heard about yearly performance bonuses equal to 6-month's salary! So, it may be true!

The downside was that these guys effectively lived at the office and had no lives whatsoever. Confused
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stumptown



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 15, 2006 7:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Return Jones wrote:
stumptown wrote:
What about the corporate bonuses? Someone told me that corporate employees will get upwards of 5 times their monthly salaries on the lunar new year. Any truth to this?


When I taught (legally, btw!) at a large Chaebol, I heard about yearly performance bonuses equal to 6-month's salary! So, it may be true!

The downside was that these guys effectively lived at the office and had no lives whatsoever. Confused


Yeah, that's also what I heard as well. I'd have to say I think I'm better off with my public school job.
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