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robb9
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RACETRAITOR
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Location: Seoul, South Korea
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 Posted: Fri Jun 16, 2006 1:41 am Post subject: Re: wow the japanese invented soju |
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So what? The Japanese invented Jesus too.
Does that article even mention the Japanese inventing soju? They certainly don't give any credit to the Koreans, but maybe it's just a poorly researched article. |
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VanIslander
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Location: Geoje, Hadong, Tongyeong,... now in a small coastal island town outside Gyeongsangnamdo!
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Geography lesson: "sochu" comes from Kagoshima, as the article mentions ad nauseum, yet that's just south of Fukuoka, very near Korea... hmmm... I'd bet it evolved from a similar brew acquired from the mainland.
But if you believe in coincidences then the linguistic and geographic similarities can be hurled along with the swill. |
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Chinaski
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| I don't really know too much about 'Soju' and 'Shochu', except that I can't stand either of them. I'm guessing they are probably pretty much the same thing. However, in Japan they're treated as very different, with people making generalisations like Soju is sweeter. And if you want to buy Soju, you ask for Soju (not Korean Shochu). So I don't think there is any claim on the discovery of Soju, as most Japanese class them as two different drinks...but then again these two countries love bickering, so who knows. |
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Homer
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Earth shattering news Robb...really...changed my outlook on East asia...  |
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Stephen Jones
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| The origin of soju production in Korea goes back to Goryeo Dynasty in the 13th century, when the Persian distilling technique came to Korea via Mongolia and the Chinese Yuan Dynasty. |
http://www2.gol.com/users/coynerhm/moving_beyond_the_green_blur.htm
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| Soju has been a Korean traditional alcoholic beverage since the late of the Gorye period(918-1392) and the period of the Won Dynasty in China, Soju was introduced into Korea under the name of 'Sul'. Originally, Sul was from Arabia to the Mongols of the Won Dynasty, then to Manchuria and into Korea. |
http://www.american.edu/TED/soju.htm
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| Soju was introduced from China the late 13th century during the Koryo dynasty. |
http://www.sogang.ac.kr/~burns/cult951/korliq.html |
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seoulkitchen
Joined: 28 Dec 2004
Location: Hub of Asia, my ass!
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| Posted: Fri Jun 16, 2006 8:25 pm Post subject: |
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| The origin of soju production in Korea goes back to Goryeo Dynasty in the 13th century, when the Persian distilling technique came to Korea via Mongolia and the Chinese Yuan Dynasty. |
http://www2.gol.com/users/coynerhm/moving_beyond_the_green_blur.htm
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| Soju has been a Korean traditional alcoholic beverage since the late of the Gorye period(918-1392) and the period of the Won Dynasty in China, Soju was introduced into Korea under the name of 'Sul'. Originally, Sul was from Arabia to the Mongols of the Won Dynasty, then to Manchuria and into Korea. |
http://www.american.edu/TED/soju.htm
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| Soju was introduced from China the late 13th century during the Koryo dynasty. |
http://www.sogang.ac.kr/~burns/cult951/korliq.html |
Good info there. thanks.
I liked the article on shochu. Has nothing to do with soju. I'd like to write an article like that about soju. They've had some pretty good ones in the past. Does anyone remember Kim Satgat soju? That was really nice stuff.
Over in the west soju is getting to be more popular and it's even being promoted as a premium liquor.
However, I still think it's just gut rot. Nasty but fun.
(and she'll have fun fun fun til her daddy takes her soju away....) |
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Hollywoodaction
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Shochu, soju. Same Chinese symbols, no doubt. It's to be expected since both are made with the same basic ingredient (sweet potatoes) and the Korean and Japanese languages were strongly influenced by Chinese at that time. Nothing special about using potatoes to produce alcohol. Vodka is made from potatoes, too.
By the way, vodka and whisky are related words. Spirits, eaux-de-vie, aqua vitae, vodka, whisky, akvavit or water of life. It all comes from Middle-Eastern alchemy. |
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