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[itaewonguy]

The Tritateral commission is.. intended to be the vehicle for the
mulinational consolidation of the commerical and banking interests by seizing control of the politcal government of the united states.



The membership list of the council on foreign relations.

IS it really the invisible government of America?

I dont know much about this stuff..
but maybe some of the older Americans or older board members might.

in the past is seemed that it didnt really matter if the replublicans or the democrats were in the white house becuase they both have the same foreign and domestic policies.

I've heard that the central banks of the world are creating a system
by which they can control the governments and in which the governments will control the people of the world.

so is possible that maybe the objective is to create a one world government a new world ecomonic order and a new world spirtual order?

The council on foreign policies, the Tritateral commission ,the bilderbergers,the masonic movement, the skull and bones society the federal reserve board and the central banks of the world are they all joined together in a continuity of evil?

its been said they have financied communists, adolf hitler, took us into a no win war in korea and vietnam
are all these things we read about just conspiracy theories. made up from bitter paranoid men?

any truth to these claims?

[Nowhere Man]

Itaewaonguy,

I generally don't have the same politics as you, and I'd guess that we disagree wth just about everything, but I'd like to thank you for this post.

The Council on Foreign Relations essentially includes most of the leadership in the US government for the past 30 or so years.

I'm not saying it's a conspiracy because it is right there sitting in front of us. Membership is not secret. It's all quite transparent as to who's a member and the influence they have.

Is it a good thing?

No.

Centralized power is the primary source of corruption.

Having only 2 political parties is a major cause of this.

The fact that the size of our house of representatives was frozen in 1911 has also substantially contributed to the problem.

Reform the electoral college.

Unfreeze the size of the house.

Spread the power out.

As we grow larger, keep spreading.

Power is either lumping up or being dispersed. There's no in-between.

[Ya-ta Boy]

[some waygug-in]

Perhaps you are looking in the wrong direction. I don't claim to know, as has been pointed out to me many times on this forum, I am quite ignorant as to the workings of these things. So if this post angers anyone, let me apologize for my ignorance in advance.

http://www.buzzflash.com/reviews/06/03/rev06046.html

What Every American Should Know About Who's Really Running the World (Paperback)
by Melissa Rossi


Not that we discount all conspiracy theories, but this book is not a theory; it's the truth. Rossi has performed an admirable service by providing nugget size, easily understandable insights into the people and corporations who are reshaping America and the world from their perspective (and it's not a pretty picture).

In short, we peons tend to view the world from the bottom up. We take scattered bits of information and try to formulate an idea of what the "Masters of the Universe" are up to. Rossi provides a neat compendium of the forces that have come together to create a world in which financial relationships, delusions of grandeur, and raw power make nation states like pieces of timber to be sliced up in a saw mill.

Not that this is a treatise. Actually, it is composed like a hip encyclopedia that gives you background on key players in the new "great game." We are like Plato's man who can only see the shadow of reality; the people and companies in "What Every American Should know" are the reality. They are calling the shots.

[desultude]

I think a good read on the topic, albeit open to debate, is Wallerstein's The Decline of American Power.

He takes the helium out of conspiracy theories by positing a world system's theory that shows the interrelationships without the "puppet-masters of the world" paranoid stuff.

Look at it this way- the really monied elites of the world share the same interests, practices and boardrooms. Most of the real leaders in the U.S. went to the same prep schools and universities. They read, and create, the same media. Sometimes some of the elite experience enough cognitive dissonance, usually by being shockingly exposed to the realities of the world, and turn on their familial interests- note the Buddha, Engles, and, I believe, Ghandi. This is often where the revolutionary class finds its leadership. On the other hand, elite education does not lend itself to truly democratic values, so said leadership tends back to its autocratic roots.

None of this is conspiracy. Harvard, accused of being a bastion of liberalism, creates a lot of these leaders. They don't get daily doses of lessons in ruling the world in the way that conspiracy theorists think they do, instead they get continual reinforcement of the values and beliefs of the class they belong to, with enough social consciousness to maintain a semblance of social responsibility.

For the people benefiting from the system, maintaining and reinforcing the status quo only makes sense.

Yes, this is a bit overly simplified, but it is pretty accurate in terms of the political culture of the real elites.

[Gopher]

Excellent recommendation, Desultude.

Have you also checked out Sidney Mintz's Sweetness and Power? A great companion to the stuff Wallerstein and Gunder Frank are producing.

[igotthisguitar]

America: From Freedom to Fascism

http://www.freedomtofacism.com/index.html

[ddeubel]

Let's not get weighed down in semantics.

Very clear, apparent to me..............there is an American govt, very visible. They make decisions, they go on TV, they eat beef and give speeches.......

They are stupid and war mongering, misguided and merchants of death. Very clear.

I DO know that the American people will see through the very insular and military approach of their elected men. Impeach or one day reach elsewhere.......

But let us be clear. Invisible govt or not, there is one there and it needs to be held accountable....... I hope Americans get those bastards making the body bags fill.....(for both sides)

DD

[igotthisguitar]

Did Hillary Clinton Attend Bilderberg Conference?
Hotel head says she was there, coupled with high security arrival of U.S. official

Paul Joseph Watson & Alex Jones/Prison Planet.com | June 15 2006

Did New York Senator and possible 2008 presidential candidate Hillary Clinton attend this past weekend's Bilderberg meeting in Ottawa Canada? Our inside sources coupled with what witnesses saw at the Brookestreet Hotel strongly suggest this to be the case.



On Saturday, the second day of the conference, a large cadillac style amored limousine with U.S. diplomatic plates arrived at the underground parking garage of the Brookestreet Hotel festooned by police motorcycles and added security.

This extra subterfuge was not in evidence for other attendees such as David Rockerfeller and Queen Beatrix, who arrived outside the front of the building and walked straight in.

One of our sources spoke with the head of the hotel who informed him that Hillary Clinton had arrived to attend the Bilderberg conference, confirming the rumors we had previously heard.

Clinton is a touted presidential candidate as is New York Governor Pataki, who it was reported by the New York Sun was also in attendance at Bilderberg.

Bilderberg has a proven history of acting in a kingmaker capacity. Both Bill Clinton and Tony Blair attended before becoming President and Prime Minister and the mainstream media reported that Bilderberg selected John Edwards as Kerry's running mate in 2004.

Could Clinton have attended Bilderberg on Saturday or was she elsewhere?

Clinton's official website makes no mention of any engagements across the entire weekend. New York to Canada is a short hop and back.

While Clinton's Saturday movements are ambiguous, we know where she was on on Tuesday.

She was being roundly booed by her own usually sycophantic left-leaning audience at the Campaign for America's Future conference.

Clinton, a supporter of the Iraq invasion from day one, was heckled and cat-called for again publicly backing the Bush administration's reluctance to withdraw troops from Iraq.

http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/june2006/150606clintonattend.htm

[Nowhere Man]

Centralized power is the primary source of corruption.

Having only 2 political parties is a major cause of this.

The fact that the size of our house of representatives was frozen in 1911 has also substantially contributed to the problem.

Reform the electoral college.

Unfreeze the size of the house.

Spread the power out.

As we grow larger, keep spreading.

Power is either lumping up or being dispersed. There's no in-between.

[deadman]

A quote from David Rockefeller's autobiography 'Memoirs' -

[TheFonz]

[some waygug-in]

The point should be how these guys hide behind corporate facades and remain nameless, making decisions that have a negative impact on everyone except their own profits. The guys who control Halliburton,Diebold, Carlyle group etc.

Corporations don't vote, they don't have "rights of citizenship", yet they weild enormous power over the decision making processes in all so-called democratic countries. (not just the US)

Take a look at the influence of pharmaceutical giants over medical policies for example.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/medicine/story/0,,1799772,00.html

[igotthisguitar]

[Junior]